New Engine Unveiling And Testing

[Ty]

Aside from the fact that Elio/COMAU isn't setting the world on fire trying to sell
the 'excess equipment'. I fail to see the downside risk as being so great that
angels &/or VC's aren't lining up to get in on the 'Early Release' - i.e., the first
40 -60k units, as has been said ad nauseam. The only logical answer is who
gets to have & (have how much) control, & there you have it............o_O

I think you've got the gist of it there.

Longer time =more control of Elio and a better long-term outcome
Shorter time = less control by giving up control for fast cash

 

[eddie66]

Aside from the fact that Elio/COMAU isn't setting the world on fire trying to sell
the 'excess equipment'. I fail to see the downside risk as being so great that
angels &/or VC's aren't lining up to get in on the 'Early Release' - i.e., the first
40 -60k units, as has been said ad nauseam. The only logical answer is who
gets to have & (have how much) control, & there you have it............o_O

If they sold all the excess equipment tomorrow, they still wouldn't have anywhere near the $230,000,000 they need.

 

[eddie66]

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[Kuda]

If they sold all the excess equipment tomorrow, they still wouldn't have anywhere near the $230,000,000 they need.

I think you've got the gist of it there.

Longer time =more control of Elio and a better long-term outcome
Shorter time = less control by giving up control for fast cash

Yup. Looking more & more like
the ATVM is what Paul will need
In order to not give up control....

 

[Ekh]

I think you've got the gist of it there.

Longer time =more control of Elio and a better long-term outcome
Shorter time = less control by giving up control for fast cash

Precisely.

 

[Nate_tx]

One of the funny things is - well - how not so advanced the Tesla Lithium battery itself really is. A lot of people clammering they have some sort of secret lithium sauce. LOL not so much - the the p85 (or p60 I forget) has 1,750 - series 1850 lithium batteries into the floor frame. The same ones in many of your devices (like my E-cig vape device).and its just a bit larger than a AA Alkaline battery. The secret is in the "Management" of the charging and discharging of those batts and the system that liquid cools or heats them. Thats the magic really its not they have some magic lithium battery composition its innovation in the management of those batteries.

This information btw wasn't on the Tesla site - it slipped out on a Jay Leno test drive of the Tesla on youtube with one of the engineers.

 

[Joshua Caldwell]

Yup, during its development I read a bit that to control costs they simply used existing batteries designed for laptops and just hooked them up into arrays with cooling and charging management systems.

 

[BlioKart]

One of the funny things is - well - how not so advanced the Tesla Lithium battery itself really is. A lot of people clammering they have some sort of secret lithium sauce. LOL not so much - the the p85 (or p60 I forget) has 1,750 - series 1850 lithium batteries into the floor frame. The same ones in many of your devices (like my E-cig vape device).and its just a bit larger than a AA Alkaline battery. The secret is in the "Management" of the charging and discharging of those batts and the system that liquid cools or heats them. Thats the magic really its not they have some magic lithium battery composition its innovation in the management of those batteries.

This information btw wasn't on the Tesla site - it slipped out on a Jay Leno test drive of the Tesla on youtube with one of the engineers.

I have heard Musk say something to that effect.

 

[pistonboy]

I believe the engine is suspended loosely in it's cradle to allow vibration testing. You really can't pick up all the minute accelerations if the engine is tied down too tight. Can't see them but the engine probably has vib accelerometers all over it. Also Honda engines have an engine mount in the area of the cam cover plate in question. I think the plate looks out of place because it's only covering the hole during testing. Mount configuration will be determined when the chassis is ready. IMHO.

That would explain the different finish that plate has always had in pictures.

 

[Rickb]

If they sold all the excess equipment tomorrow, they still wouldn't have anywhere near the $230,000,000 they need.

The excess equipment sale was to generate enough funds to pay off Elio's initial loan for the equipment purchase and net the anticipated $40 million to start the hiring process for the 1500 jobs. It seems now they will be using much of the next round of loan money for those financial commitments.