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TeamCoconutOreo
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Unless you hear this out of Elio, don't believe it. According to the speculation from nay sayers, we shouldn't be where we are today. I wouldn't expect them to say that Elio will make it to production. Not how there are absolutely no refrence to where the information is coming from.
Just my 2 pennies worth.
TCBronson
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This is the statement that makes me worry a bit.
"The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) recently proposed changes to regulations that would essentially ban three-wheeled cars."
It could be possible that they could change the regulations. But if the Elio can pass a 5 star crash test, then how could they ban it?
"The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) recently proposed changes to regulations that would essentially ban three-wheeled cars."
It could be possible that they could change the regulations. But if the Elio can pass a 5 star crash test, then how could they ban it?
TeamCoconutOreo
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Shows you how inaccurate the article is. In the US if it has three wheels it would be registered as a motorcycle. How would the NHTSA ban a car that doesn't exist. They would first have to create legislation that made said three wheeler a car. After that passed they would then have to pass legislation to ban said car.
Really???
A government agency such as the NHTSA is not going to be changing regulations when there is a bill in congress addressing the same subject. Senator Vitter of Louisiana has introduced a bill addressing this subject. I suspect it was done by the senator to protect Elio Motors and influence NHTSA regulations in the future to be what the senator and EM wants.
Senator David Vitter, Republican of Louisiana, says his Autocycle Safety Act would guarantee the safety of autocycles (it’s right there in the name!), “create jobs, and encourage the same entrepreneurial spirit that created motor vehicles and motorcycles.” (Of course, when cars and motorcycles were first being developed, there was very little in the way of government regulation.) He also says the law would “ensure that imported vehicles of similar types will be covered by the same safety standards that domestic manufacturers will follow.”
That means complying with existing vehicle safety regulations applied to passenger cars weighing less than 10,000 pounds (that’s all passenger cars), so the Elio will need a steering wheel air bag, curtain side impact air bags, anti-lock brakes, and electronic stability control. Hitting the fuel economy standards that apply to four-wheeled vehicles shouldn’t be a problem, considering the advertised 84 mpg. Autocycles would need to comply with motorcycle standards relating to headlights, rearview mirrors, tires, braking, and more. Basically, motorcycle standards are applied to the motorcycle bits of the vehicle, with car safety standards applied to the car-related parts.
But instead of balking at the idea of more rules, Elio supports the legislation. Its CEO, Paul Elio, is quoted in Vitter’s press release, saying the bill would not only “provide consistency across all jurisdictions, but it strongly supports [Vitter’s] efforts to bring jobs back to the Shreveport area” where Elio plans to build its cars. Maybe that’s because the company is going after federal funding to build its vehicles, and working with a senator helps. Maybe they think they can convince people to buy their product if it meets more stringent rules. And maybe they’re confident the Elio will already meet those standards, so it’s not a big deal for them, but it will make things harder for the competition, like the Toyota i-ROAD.
http://www.wired.com/2015/03/new-rules-make-three-wheeled-cars-actually-safe/
Senator David Vitter, Republican of Louisiana, says his Autocycle Safety Act would guarantee the safety of autocycles (it’s right there in the name!), “create jobs, and encourage the same entrepreneurial spirit that created motor vehicles and motorcycles.” (Of course, when cars and motorcycles were first being developed, there was very little in the way of government regulation.) He also says the law would “ensure that imported vehicles of similar types will be covered by the same safety standards that domestic manufacturers will follow.”
That means complying with existing vehicle safety regulations applied to passenger cars weighing less than 10,000 pounds (that’s all passenger cars), so the Elio will need a steering wheel air bag, curtain side impact air bags, anti-lock brakes, and electronic stability control. Hitting the fuel economy standards that apply to four-wheeled vehicles shouldn’t be a problem, considering the advertised 84 mpg. Autocycles would need to comply with motorcycle standards relating to headlights, rearview mirrors, tires, braking, and more. Basically, motorcycle standards are applied to the motorcycle bits of the vehicle, with car safety standards applied to the car-related parts.
But instead of balking at the idea of more rules, Elio supports the legislation. Its CEO, Paul Elio, is quoted in Vitter’s press release, saying the bill would not only “provide consistency across all jurisdictions, but it strongly supports [Vitter’s] efforts to bring jobs back to the Shreveport area” where Elio plans to build its cars. Maybe that’s because the company is going after federal funding to build its vehicles, and working with a senator helps. Maybe they think they can convince people to buy their product if it meets more stringent rules. And maybe they’re confident the Elio will already meet those standards, so it’s not a big deal for them, but it will make things harder for the competition, like the Toyota i-ROAD.
http://www.wired.com/2015/03/new-rules-make-three-wheeled-cars-actually-safe/
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John Painter
Elio Addict
It would be very hard near impossible without it. Other sources of capital are; we know they still utilize reservations, are expecting a release of credit card charge withholdings from credit card processing companies, are still selling excess equipment in Shreveport, and think they have a shot at CAFE credits if they can influence federal regulations as how the Elio is classified.
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Rob Croson
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There's no way in hell the Elio could get a 5 star rating using the official crash testing. There are quite a few safety regulations that the Elio doesn't meet. That's why they no longer advertise a 5-star rating.
Maurtis
Elio Addict
Problem solved....
Exactly! Solves so many problems, assuming the Elio really can pass the crash tests. Then allow an "aftermarket" upgrade to a single wheel as designed
John Painter
Elio Addict
It should make you worry because the blogger who wrote it didn't bother to really do much research e.g. the proposed changes to Federal Code are only "recent" if you call 2012 when it was first introduced by NHTSA recent. By the same standard, you'd want to consider EM's use of crumple zones, airbags, enclosed steel roll cage, etc, etc as "recent" too.
I think there will be plenty of angst, anger, name calling, prognostications, and all manor of Tom-foolery the closer we get to another new vehicle manufacturer in the US. Get your popcorn and beverage of choice as the fun begins!
