Geo Metro/ Canadian Swift Engine

[4950cycle]

It's all starting to sound a lot more expensive and harder to maintain than old school and $8000. But I do like the pic of the supposed power plant. I saw it somewhere on here ?

 

[Maurtis]

... and Bugatti is owned by VW. Nice German engineering (with cooked-up emissions numbers - though no Bugatti owner would ever truly care about that).

To be fair, Mitsubishi got caught for cooking their numbers for the last 25 years too. Hyundai/Kia and Ford got dinged for overstating MPG recently. I got a refund check for my Hyundai Veloster's mileage variance and looks like Ford is in the process of issuing checks too.

 

[Maurtis]

It's all starting to sound a lot more expensive and harder to maintain than old school and $8000. But I do like the pic of the supposed power plant. I saw it somewhere on here ?

What have you heard that makes the motor seem hard to maintain or expensive? Assuming you mean more than just oil changes. Are you referring to major maintenance like timing chain replacement and head work? If so, I would not think it would be any more expensive than any other car that comes out with a new motor. If Elio plans on putting out 250,000 per year, then there will certainly be tons of parts available for repairs too in no time.

This is not intended to be a low volume high cost production.

 

[W. WIllie]

4950cycle:
If you want to "Voice an opinion" and hopefully it will not envolve into an argument, do your homework first before posting here. A lot of us are defensive to the ELIO.

 

[Coss]

It's all starting to sound a lot more expensive and harder to maintain than old school and $8000. But I do like the pic of the supposed power plant. I saw it somewhere on here ?

You means this picture?

 

[Elio Amazed]

Well...
I am King and deserve the best.

That's why I have a SIL and own EM stock.

Have you been to any of the annual Geopaloozas @ Geneva-on-the-lake?

https://www.facebook.com/events/493098657497088/
http://geometroforum.com/topic/5737782/1/

 

[ehwatt]

The biggest issue really is that the Geo/Swift engine is no longer in production. And that was the main reason that EM decided to design their own motor: they didn't want to be beholden to another auto manufacturer's supply of crate engines.

Could EM have aquired the licensing to produce a replica of the Geo Metro engine? Sure. That would mean they are paying money for the privilage of building a decade's old motor that was designed for a 2200lb, 4-wheel econocar.

Instead, by designing their own engine, EM gets:

• Control over their own supply chain, ensuring availability of the engine for all their production needs
• The ability to tailor the engine's features specifically for their car.
• A secondary income stream by licensing the engine to other manufacturers around the world.

I'm really looking forward to seeing what other applications the Elio Engine can be put towards--in particular I am looking forward to possible Light Aircraft applications. The Metro engine saw a number of aircraft builds, and theoretically the longer stroke and low-end torque of the Elio engine would make it an even better option for an aircraft application.

I can envision a pure electric vehicle hooking up a small trailer that has an Elio engine/generator for road trips. Alcohol, LP gas, hydrogen, but NO petrol of course.

 

[4950cycle]

I would be happy with just a base model then. It has all and more I ever need or use besides GPS.

 

[4950cycle]

Well...
I am King and deserve the best.

That's why I have a SIL and own EM stock.

Have you been to any of the annual Geopaloozas @ Geneva-on-the-lake?

https://www.facebook.com/events/493098657497088/
http://geometroforum.com/topic/5737782/1/
Usually the Geopaloozas are to far north for me. And yes, Don't you recognize my handle. It's the same handle I use on the Geoforum

 

[4950cycle]

Whats an SIL ?