Elio Gauge Cluster - Lord Elgin? - Other Options?

[Ekh]

For those who have not heard. In conversations with Elio VP Jerome Vassallo in Birmingham and Charlotte I was able to confirm that directly that the Elio vehicle will have a standard OBD-II connector and will be OBD-II compliant for diagnostic fault code scan tools and such. However, the Elio will NOT support the data streaming portion of the OBD-II standard so there will be no streaming sensor data which you need to run virtual gauges when using applications, such as Torque, which provide such functionality.

For those who may wonder as far as I can find the data streaming portion of OBD-II standard is not required by Federal law on any vehicle as the federal government apparently only really cares about using OBD-II for vehicle identification, safety, and emissions control purposes.

So even if the Elio vehicle were a car and not a motorcycle they likely still would not have to provide this data and could save money by using the inexpensive ECU/PCM which does not support hosting this data. Once again the very smart people working with Paul Elio have managed to find a way to save money while at the same time meeting the higher car standard instead of just the motorcycle standard.

Interesting. And upsetting. So it's fork over about $2K, and get lots of information, or stare at the spinning wheel trying to interpolate where within 20 mph my speed actually is. Actually, I know for a fact that Elio is well aware of the general loathing for the Elgin dash -- and perhaps something will come of that.

 

[goofyone]

Interesting. And upsetting. So it's fork over about $2K, and get lots of information, or stare at the spinning wheel trying to interpolate where within 20 mph my speed actually is. Actually, I know for a fact that Elio is well aware of the general loathing for the Elgin dash -- and perhaps something will come of that.

The official EM response to all the talk about the Elgin gauges is to allow owners to show the speed on the multi-function display in the center of the dash if they so desire.

 

[goofyone]

So I'm going to guess that this dash that PE must have is not an American made part seeing how the one they are showing is metric. Can't they find an American manufacturer to make a good looking functional dash.

The company that designs the Elgin gauge cluster and makes a lot of the component is an American company, Dakkota. It is really hard to say for sure at this point what parts will be made where as many suppliers can make parts at various plants around the world depending on the demand so while some of these parts are coming from overseas now to be used as prototypes many will likely end up being manufactured in the USA in order to supply Elio Motors.

 

[Chaz]

The official EM response to all the talk about the Elgin gauges is to allow owners to show the speed on the multi-function display in the center of the dash if they so desire.

Kind of defeats the purpose of the "magnificent huge spinning dials" that is the Elgin dash.

 

[Chaz]

The company that designs the Elgin gauge cluster and makes a lot of the component is an American company, Dakkota. It is really hard to say for sure at this point what parts will be made where as many suppliers can make parts at various plants around the world depending on the demand so while some of these parts are coming from overseas now to be used as prototypes many will likely end up being manufactured in the USA in order to supply Elio Motors.

That is good, Dakkota who makes a lot of replacements clusters will know exactly what size and connections this one uses. That will make it much easier to replace this monstrosity with another and they will be making money on both ends of the deal.

 

[goofyone]

Kind of defeats the purpose of the "magnificent huge spinning dials" that is the Elgin dash.

Having now seen the gauges in person I don't really believe it is necessary however as I said it is planned as a way of appeasing the group of reservation holders who have been whining about this.

 

[Ty]

Having now seen the gauges in person I don't really believe it is necessary however as I said it is planned as a way of appeasing the group of reservation holders who have been whining about this.

G1, I'm a little lost and as this forum has grown up quite a bit, I can't spend the time searching out the answer so I'm going to ask you here. Here's what I think is the case:
1. The Elgin dash is the only dash they will offer.
2. It looks better in person so don't judge too harshly via pictures
3. The numbering in the pictures is not the same as the production model which will have better deliniation
4. The Skyzmatic is not an Elgin replacement but rather an augmentation that will share dash space somewhere (and potentially cost about $2,000)
5. The gas cap is on the correct side - away from the only door and traffic. (sorry, but it's just too funny that the gas cap thread is so long)

 

[zelio]

G1, I'm a little lost and as this forum has grown up quite a bit, I can't spend the time searching out the answer so I'm going to ask you here. Here's what I think is the case:
1. The Elgin dash is the only dash they will offer.
2. It looks better in person so don't judge too harshly via pictures
3. The numbering in the pictures is not the same as the production model which will have better deliniation
4. The Skyzmatic is not an Elgin replacement but rather an augmentation that will share dash space somewhere (and potentially cost about $2,000)
5. The gas cap is on the correct side - away from the only door and traffic. (sorry, but it's just too funny that the gas cap thread is so long)

I'm not G1, as we all know, but I am impressed with your analysis. Very good job of narrowing down a couple of very long threads to a few concise statements.

It is also very nice to hear from you again. I miss seeing you around once in a while and have since you traveled in the summer. :-) Z

 

[Ty]

I'm not G1, as we all know, but I am impressed with your analysis. Very good job of narrowing down a couple of very long threads to a few concise statements.

It is also very nice to hear from you again. I miss seeing you around once in a while and have since you traveled in the summer. Z

Yes. I've missed quite a bunch and yet nothing at the same time. The engine, for instance, has been in testing for about a month but nary a word from Elio or IAV. I hope all is going well there.

 

[DanS]

The official EM response to all the talk about the Elgin gauges is to allow owners to show the speed on the multi-function display in the center of the dash if they so desire.

I like that response I originally thought the dash would be all digital But at least now we can have the Digital speed readout