2015 - 16 Nfl Fan Talk Page

[Coss]

Yeah that salary cap is a double-edged sword for sure. It makes teams that are loaded with talent decide which players to pay and which ones to not pay. The ones you don't pay, you can trade or let them explore free agency.

From what I heard in the sports news, it was in Seattle's best interest to pay Wilson, the big DB that didn't play the first few games, the LB (sorry I'm forgetting names). And sure enough, you can't pay everyone.

In a mostly unrelated news item, my Chiefs let go of Dwayne Bowe WR after last year. Cleveland snarfed him up and guaranteed him $9 mill. So far this season, Bowe's production has been... 2 targets, 0 receptions, a lingering injury, and now he's about 6th on the depth chart. It's under-the-radar decisions like this that make teams like Cleveland bad for so long.

Some of that too is that the players just don't want to be where ever they end up. They'll gladly take the money, but if they're unhappy they can have nagging injuries, personal issues, poor performance, etc.
Seattle got that with Dion Branch the receiver we got from New England, and Percy Harvin (hurt 90% of his first year here, then a cancer in the locker room, that's how Golden Tate III left; Harvin and Tate were fighting in the locker room). So some times "business decisions" aren't in the best interest for everyone involved.

 

[Elf]

And the Pats whooped the Jets

 

[Coss]

Raiders are just kicking butt on San Diego 37 - 13
Giants - Cowboys tied at 20 in the 4th with 7 minutes to go
Miami over Houston 44 - 26

 

[Hotscoots]

 

[JEBar]

Eagles @ Panthers on Sunday Night Football ... hopefully the game will be as good as the intro ..

 

[Jeff Porter]

Sunday's games:

Pitt 13, KC 23 - To what do my wandering eyes appear, but the Chiefs with a victory and raising a beer! KC did need 3 turnovers from Pitt to help, as KC had 5 more penalties than the Steelers. Yes, Pitt's 3rd string QB started, and you had a feeling that an NFL team having a week to prepare would probably defend well. They did. Both teams had 2 sacks, but KC was much better on 3rd down, going 9-16. Both teams ran the ball well. KC's backup RB Charcandrick West had a great game, ran for 110 and 1 TD and 19 yds receiving. And the big shocker: a WR for the Chiefs caught a TD. It wasn't the first time this year, but the media made such a big deal of it for so long last year, I thought I'd give 'em props when they got one. Pitt is 4-3.

Buff 31, Jax 34 - Jags get their 2nd win of the year, as Buff had to start a backup QB, EJ Manuel. He had a bad first half and a good 2nd half, but Jax was the better team today. Bills did score 28 unanswered to take the lead with 5:21 to go, but Bortles led the Jags to a TD with 2:16 left for the win. Buff lost in turnovers 4-1, were not as good on 3rd down as Jax. Buff keeps the penalty frenzy going, but Jax matched them, both teams had 10 penalties. Is Jax getting better, or did Buff lay a stinker? We'll be able to answer in the coming weeks.

NYJ 23, NE 30 - Jets had the lead 17-16 at the end of the 3rd, and that's when Brady turned it on and got his team the win. Weird stat of this game: Brady led the Pats in rushing with 15 yds and 1 TD. Only the Patriots could win a game with 16 yds rushing as a team on 9 plays. Sheesh!! Jets out-sacked the Pats 3-2, they had the same # of penalties (4), and both teams stunk it up on 3rd down. Jets lost in turnovers 1-0. I'm starting to think that an NFL QB throwing 50 times in a game is not a big deal. Brady threw it 54 times. Pats are 6-0, Jets fall to 4-2.

TB 30, Wash 31 - Oh Tampa! You had the huge LEAD, and let it get away. To Washington. Led by Kirk Cousins. Bucs led 24-7 at half, and all they could muster in the 2nd half was two 4th-qtr FGs. Kudos to Cousins: 317 yds and 3 TDs. Sacks were even, 3rd down efficiency for both teams was very good, turnovers were even at 1. Penalties were the huge difference: 16 for Tampa, 4 for Wash. Once again, a team runs for very few yds (50) and wins the game. Stuh-range. Warsh (say it with a Kansan accent) is 3-4 and in the thick of things in the NFC East.

NO 27, Indy 21 - Saints go on the road to another dome and get a win. NO was up 27-0 in the 3rd qtr, and then Indy made it 27-21 with 3:05 to play. Both Luck for Indy and Kaepernick for SF were looking so very promising a few years ago. Now, they look lost at times. Luck made many mistakes yesterday. Saints were a bit better on 3rd down, ran the ball extremely well for 183 yds to Indy's 75. Saints had a dozen penalties, 5 more than Indy, but Indy lost in turnovers 3-1. Mark Ingram for NO gained 10+ yds on each of his 14 runs. Nice. Both teams are 3-4. Strange AFC South fact: Indy leads the division with a losing record.

Atl 10, Ten 7 - Road teams did well on this day, yet another visiting team gets a W. Only 7 pts total were scored in the 2nd half. Both QBs threw 2 INTs, looks like neither team was able to take advantage. All other stats were fairly even, except Atl ran the ball for 50+ more yds. Ten was very bad on 3rd down, 1-9. Falcons move to 6-1.

Hou 26, Mia 44 - This was never a game. Mia led 35-0 EARLY in the 2nd qtr, 41-0 at half. Mia had 3 TD passes of 50+ yds in the first half. Tannehill can be bad one week and great the next: here he was excellent, 18-19, 282 yds, 4 TDs. Lamar Miller ran the ball very well for the Fish, 175 yds and 1 TD. Arian Foster may have blown out his Achilles tendon, his season may be done. The stats favored Hou heavily, but they were "garbage-time stats", they just gave up too many big plays in the first half. Mia is now 3-3.

Minn 28, Det 19 - This was sort of a strange game. Lots of sacks (11), two QBs that played very well (2 TD each), Minn had 150 more yds in total offense, Det was very bad on 3rd down, 1-10. Det was up 17-6 in the 2nd qtr, and they were not able to score on their own the rest of the game... at home. Minn allowed a safety with 59 seconds to go. Minn is 4-2.

Cle 6, StL 24 - Rams thumped the Browns. Both teams were bad on 3rd down, had tons of penalties (20 total), but Cle lost in turnovers 4-1. McCown had decent numbers, 26-32 for 270 yds, no INTs but no TDs. Manziel made an appearance for some reason, was 4-5 for 27 yds. Rams ran the ball very well, Gurley went for 128 yds. Foles didn't do much in the passing game, but Rams are now 3-3.

Oak 37, SD 29 - Another road win and a surprising one. This was never a game, 37-6 at the end of the 3rd. The SD final TD came with 6 secs left. Rivers threw the ball 58 times, was only sacked once, had 3 TDs and 2 INTs. Carr for Oak had an excellent game, throwing for 289 and 3 TDs and no INTs, only 1 sack. SD lost in turnovers 2-0. Refs didn't pick up the yellow hanky, they just left it on the ground for the next play. 23 total penalties. Both teams were good on 3rd down, SD a little better. Raiders are now in 2nd place in the AFC West at 3-3.

Dal 20, NYG 27 - Back and forth game, Cassell throws a pick-6, 2 other INTs. Eli's numbers were low, but no INTs. Sacks were nearly even, but how about this: Dal ran for 233 yds and lost. Dal lost in turnovers 4-0, so that tends to wipe out the nice running game. Dal also had 4 more penalties. NYG are 4-3.

Phi 16, Car 27 - Panthers are able to overcome Cam's 3 INTs that he threw. Both teams ran the ball very well, 175 for Phi and 200+ for Car. Bradford was bad too, 0 TD 1 INT and 5 sacks (that's a bad O-line). Penalties were fairly even, Phi was much better on 3rd down. A strange game, with most of the stats indicating that Phi should've won, but Car got 3 TDs and 2 FGs, Phi got 1 TD and 3 FGs. Car is 6-0.

 

[Coss]

Thank you Jeff!! I always look forward to your Monday reports; keep up the excellent work.
Sunday, we're watching the NO / Indy game, the score was 27 - 0; they cut to a commercial and when they come back it was the TB / Wash game so we never got to see Indy do any scoring. The must have figured NO had it handled and the viewers were going elsewhere; but PNW TV should know that big of a lead means nothing after having Seattle blow a big lead late in the game (a couple of times). We still haven't figured out why the changed games.

 

[Ty]

Thank you Jeff!! I always look forward to your Monday reports; keep up the excellent work.
Sunday, we're watching the NO / Indy game, the score was 27 - 0; they cut to a commercial and when they come back it was the TB / Wash game so we never got to see Indy do any scoring. The must have figured NO had it handled and the viewers were going elsewhere; but PNW TV should know that big of a lead means nothing after having Seattle blow a big lead late in the game (a couple of times). We still haven't figured out why the changed games.

Same here (wife's team) but luckily it was on one of the Football package channels. At first, it was blacked out on the Package channel but available on the local station. When they switched over to the other game, the Football package channel pickup up the game. Odd.

 

[Elf]

And the Pats keep winning

 

[Coss]

And the Pats keep winning

No kidding; they made Miami look like a college team yesterday.
I think the game of the week is going to be Green Bay vs. Denver; both 6 - 0
But Payton is hurting; you can see his arm motion isn't what it used to be, it's not as fluid, fast or strong.

I think it's going to end GB 7 - 0 Den 6 - 1