Will The New York International Auto Show Have A Positive Impact On Em?

[Ekh]

It is impossible for EM to please everyone so they do not even try do so. Instead EM generally tries to make decisions which will at the very least not be objectionable to most buyers.

Except for that blasted Elgin bloody dash.

 

[Mike W]

Design on the Elio isn't a static thing, as I understand the process. Granted, what I know about all the intricacies of the suspension system is limited I kind of liked the exposed coil too but having that changed isn't anywhere near being a deal breaker. As long as it's safe, the cost and mpg are close to target and it rolls off the production line is what I'm looking for.

 

[goofyone]

Except for that blasted Elgin bloody dash.

In my opinion we simply have way too much time on our hands so at times we focus on details such as the gauges and what side the fuel fill should be on. These are details that will barely be noticed by the vast majority of potential buyers when presented with a completed vehicle.

 

[JEBar]

These are details that will barely be noticed by the vast majority of potential buyers when presented with a completed vehicle.

that is exactly the point .... per Jerome when I voiced my dislike of the look of the Elgin dash in Charlotte .... he responded by sending for the model you saw and held .... after seeing it, I still didn't like it and said so .... to told me that he felt it would look better once it was in the vehicle and hopefully that will be true .... he went on to say, that they don't feel having it will impact sales .... on that we agreed ....

 

[Jeff Porter]

I see the glass half full, so I think it will have a positive impact on both reservations and funding, but do some here disagree or heard something that strengthens my belief.

The truth is that I really do believe that if we keep the faith it will happen, so I really don' have any factual information to back up by belief.

Yeah, for many reasons, the overall impact has to be positive. Exposure to folks with big bucks, first official press conference, giving credibility to EM since they are part of a "really big shew", to quote Ed Sullivan. Tons of exposure to people that follow this event. Thumbs up!

 

[Sol Beach]

http://www.greencarreports.com/news...faces-to-launch-a-three-wheel-84-mpg-6800-car

 

[AriLea]

Except for that blasted Elgin bloody dash.

I'm pretty sure, they are hell bent to be staying purely on their stated goals towards production volume. Whatever is cost effective but acceptable to the most people !in the 'target market'!. It's an imperative to sell at volume to get the stated price. It's a very 'set in stone' business growth plan. Once the product line is established, all kinds of things can/would change. I'm sure customer satisfaction in all areas would then be high on the list of things to optimize.

 

[AriLea]

The coil over shocks were moved from the diagonal position outside of the body to a vertical position "inside" the body. Could this have been a mistake?

Do we have confirmation of that? I was wondering how the opening at the suspension would be in the new Year1, and that certainly goes along with the closed look I find in the 'Red' images Elio presented earlier. However there must be at least some openings and I personally haven't seen any presented yet. Anyone have a link to new ones?

If they do put the shocks inside, it would be consistent with their goal of higher MPG at low costs. I think at EM marketing the 84MPG/$6800 goal trumps things like having a techy exposed hardware look etc. The question is, if the traded cost of the inboard shocks offset very well with the 84mpg.

That opening can make quite a bit of difference to the MPG, just how much is a serious decision point for EM. In some test models I've worked on an opening like that could make as much as a 10% difference in aero drag, by itself raising 105mpg up to 110mpg(as an example). It just depends on the body form. With the suspension protruding out the side my guess is it is less of a difference, less than 5%. Only test results will better inform us on that.

 

[ecdriver711]

The P4 was a positive evolution to the P3 in IMO. It would be nice to see the latest tweaks with the extended nose, hidden wiper, and rear roof line change ..

 

[goofyone]

The P4 was a positive evolution to the P3 in IMO. It would be nice to see the latest tweaks with the extended nose, hidden wiper, and rear roof line change ..

Hopefully all goes well and in a couple of months we will get to see a whole fleet of these.