Why The Prototypes Have To Wait On The Engine

[Rickb]

But haven't they had months to look over the "stuff", and be able to match companies with this equipment. It seems odd that their investment into this part of the project(Wasn't there 25 of their employees working to get the machinery ready for sale?) and then when I see this stuff posted on EBAY I scratch my (bald) head. The seller (a person not a company) has less than 100 transactions, most not for this stuff. How does an international company who deals with this equipment try to retail it (even with other outlets) on EBAY??

Whatever the dollar amount (estimated value of $70 million) EM receives for the equipment they plan on using $30 million of those proceeds to pay off the liens for the other half of the equipment. This leaves Elio with a balance of $40 million to use toward the start of the hiring process........according to Caddo Parrish Minutes. This may not happen if they don't sell the equipment or only recover $30 Million leaving no balance for start up as stated.

 

[RUCRAYZE]

Darned if I know any of the answers to these questions. Have you tried calling Comau up to ask them? You could pretend to be a buyer for a $200,000 robot station and see what happens ...

I would if I could get some assurance it could do my laundry, cook, and clean. My ex cost me a lot more than a station.

 

[Rickb]

This is a matter of law, not common sense.

My common sense tells me that the car and light tuck fuel regulations were not intended to qualify a motorcycle manufacturer to profit by selling CAFE credits to car manufactures. It's a stretch even for me to comprehend as an Elio supporter.

Elio is a motorcycle by classification, although add a wheel, meet all of the auto manufacturing guidelines and Bang! Elio Motors is qualified to do so.

 

[Smitty901]

More to the point. Given the fact there is 'precedent' for 'three wheel vehicles'
to come under the ATVM guidelines. That argues well for acceptance under
'Cafe Credit' regulation......better than even money, Elio gets the OK on this.
Now getting the bureaucrats to act on it is another thing altogether. That is
where having the 'Big Boys' in your corner (lobbyist's) can only help.......

http://elioowners.com/threads/send-email-to-dop-to-show-support-for-elio-motors-loan.5614/page-37#post-70224

Game changer if it happens, it could be a catalyst that gets an investor off the fence. Of even bring in one from a company needing those credits.

 

[Ekh]

My common sense tells me that the car and light tuck fuel regulations were not intended to qualify a motorcycle manufacturer to profit by selling CAFE credits to car manufactures. It's a stretch even for me to comprehend as an Elio supporter.

Elio is a motorcycle by classification, although add a wheel, meet all of the auto manufacturing guidelines and Bang! Elio Motors is qualified to do so.

You know, I'm surprised nobody has actually talked about putting two wheels back there. Do you suppose they'd need separate axles to qualify as a 4-wheel vehicle? There would be some profound design changes needed -- chassis, body panels, gas tank design, exhaust system routing, just to mention a few. Also a drag penalty from the extra body width required to house the two rear wheels. Still, if they HAVE to be a car, it could be done.

 

[ecdriver711]

Three wheels, accept and move on.

 

[pistonboy]

Game changer if it happens, it could be a catalyst that gets an investor off the fence. Of even bring in one from a company needing those credits.

Or cause the big boys would then design their own version of the Elio, using their own café credits, making $2,000 profit on each (which Elio plans), and advertise to the consumers they have thousands of dealerships distributed in all states providing service everywhere.

Is it possible this could backfire on Elio?

 

[pistonboy]

Question: What qualifies as separate wheels?

I assume if two tires on two rims were on a six inch axle where both rear wheels rotated exactly together would be considered as duals, and thus would be considered as only one wheel keeping the Elio as a three wheeled vehicle.

Suppose that six inch axle permitted the two wheels to rotate independently of each other. Wouldn't they now be considered two independent wheels making the Elio a four wheeled vehicle?

Why wouldn't the big boys do this, generating their own carbon credits and cafe fuel economy they need? If the Elio became extremely popular, wouldn't the big boys do this? It would be extremely easy for them.

Perhaps the big boys are sitting back waiting to see if this is popular with the public, letting EM take all the risks.

 

[outsydthebox]

Or cause the big boys would then design their own version of the Elio....

Is it possible this could backfire on Elio?

I think that's a good question. And they could. Paul said as much in a recent interview, saying "...There will (eventually) be competition." The problem with the "big boys"...they don't want to "only make 2k per vehicle." EM is doing it the right way.

 

[RUCRAYZE]

hasn't the 2 close rear wheels been done the insetta comes to mind