Pictures Of The P5 With The New Motor

[Ty]

Thnaks. Lots of ways that can bind or wear .... but if it works for your motorcycle throttle, it ought to be ok here.

I've read that the only difference between the manual and automatic Elio trannies is that in the auto version the computer decides the shift points, while in the manual you decide them. This suggests that the shifter really just sends an electronic signal to an actuator mounted on the transmission. In the automatic version the actuator has a brain, and in the manual, well, it doesn't and hopes the driver does! But the actuation itself is servo-driven, in which case no real force is needed to move the cable.

Have I got this right?

It's my understanding that the extra expense for the automatic is for the servos and such. The manual is just that - manual. There isn't a servo to change the gears. However, that would simplify the linkages especially with where the shifter is in relation to where the transmission is.

 

[WilliamH]

Thnaks. Lots of ways that can bind or wear .... but if it works for your motorcycle throttle, it ought to be ok here.

I've read that the only difference between the manual and automatic Elio trannies is that in the auto version the computer decides the shift points, while in the manual you decide them. This suggests that the shifter really just sends an electronic signal to an actuator mounted on the transmission. In the automatic version the actuator has a brain, and in the manual, well, it doesn't and hopes the driver does! But the actuation itself is servo-driven, in which case no real force is needed to move the cable.

Have I got this right?

No. No servos. A simple cable that allows the depression of the clutch to pull the cable and pull the clutch fork. Much like a motorcycle clutch cable.

 

[lnwlf40]

Could this be the AC compressor?

Next question.... where are the spark plugs?

 

[Muzhik]

Next question.... where are the spark plugs?

This might get a little technical, so bear with me:

If you look in that photo sp2.png, you'll see three round chromey-like tubes in the right side of the picture. Just above where that leaf is resting, you'll see a little bolt-type gizmo with a wire coming out of it. Each of the tubes has a gizmo coming out of it. I'm thinking these gizmos are the spark plugs, just without the fancy insulated rubber-cap doo-dads where the wires clamp onto the gizmos.

Sound right?

 

[slinches]

The spark plugs are clearly visible in the high-resolution pictures of the front of the engine in the first post of this thread. They're on the exhaust side of the head between the exhaust ports and studs.

 

[JEBar]

JEBar, please say some more about this. What is the difference, and how did you find this out?

I asked when the tour was in Charlotte last December .... at that time the exact paint formulations hadn't been selected .... in addition, with all the tour stops, the Creamsicle paint on the P4 has been highly polished and polished and polished so as to present the best appearance

 

[lnwlf40]

The spark plugs are clearly visible in the high-resolution pictures of the front of the engine in the first post of this thread. They're on the exhaust side of the head between the exhaust ports and studs.

Ah yes. Thanks Slinches. Just the tips are visible, and with no cap/wire attached they are difficult to spot.

 

[3wheelin]

Thnaks. Lots of ways that can bind or wear .... but if it works for your motorcycle throttle, it ought to be ok here.

I've read that the only difference between the manual and automatic Elio trannies is that in the auto version the computer decides the shift points, while in the manual you decide them. This suggests that the shifter really just sends an electronic signal to an actuator mounted on the transmission. In the automatic version the actuator has a brain, and in the manual, well, it doesn't and hopes the driver does! But the actuation itself is servo-driven, in which case no real force is needed to move the cable.

Have I got this right?

There's nothing like being in control (manual) of when to change gear specially on a small engine. I honestly don't know how the automatic will perform going up hill until we get the chance for the eventual test drive prior to purchase. It'll look more sporty and more responsive with the stick, hood striping and the P3 wheel covers!

 

[DanS]

Why is everyone obsessing over whether the A/C is installed or not? What gives?

 

[bowers baldwin]

Why is everyone obsessing over whether the A/C is installed or not? What gives?

You must be new here (kidding) we obsess over EVERYTHING!!

Like which side of the Elgin dash should the yellow gas cap be on?