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Elio Amazed

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I don't think they sold all of the shares they had and so those unsold shares could be available on the OTC.
I don't think it works that way.
I believe "the shares they had" were "created" for the A+ offering.
I'm not even sure that those shares will exist after the offering is closed.
Simply listing the stock on that exchange is one thing.
Doing an actual IPO on it is another thing entirely.
 
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Upon seeing the commercial for the first time, I was moved to the point of not being able to breathe. I hung onto every word, clinging like these words were the essence of a new beginning. The haunting black and white image, of the old crumbling automobile factory, spoke volumes. A metaphor of a dying US auto industry, lost in time and space. Unveiling the Elio was like the opening of a new dawn. It made a profound statement. We can alter the future, and we can start now. My hope is that it touches at least a million others in the same way. Money well spent!
Yeah, THAT particular money (to make the spots) was spent quite a while ago.
I didn't get all that from the spots, but I'm sure glad someone did. :D
 

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Rickb,

You bring up some good points. However, there's a Catch-22 there: Congress may not see 50k Elios prowling the streets without an effective autocycle law in place, and according to your premise, Congress won't enact an autocycle law without seeing tens of thousands of Elios on the street.

I'd also point out a more subtle nuance to my theory - much of the actual bill writing and analysis is done by congressional aides, who are much more likely to see these ads even if their bosses don't. Those aides are in a good position to let their bosses know if they've seen the autocycle on TV, and more importantly, give them any positive impressions (hopefully not negative ones).
The Elio is currently classified as a motorcycle, with an autocycle subclassification in those States that have passed the 'autocycle' legislation that exempts individual State's MC licensing endorsement and helmet requirements. I personally don't like the idea of messing with Elio's current classifcation as it may have some negative effect and disadvantages to future owners.

I know why EM initiated the newly proposed Federal Autocycle Legislation for it's Elio and it's not to benefit owners. The new classification may eliminate the use of Motorcycle Lanes, increase State registration and licensing fees, requirement to meet 'auto safety' standards, and increase insurance premiums to name a few. My opinion is leave it alone or you open a pandora's autocycle box with government analysis and bill writing. Is there something wrong with the Elio's current MC classification that I'm not aware of?
 

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The Elio is currently classified as a motorcycle, with an autocycle subclassification in those States that have passed the 'autocycle' legislation that exempts individual State's MC licensing endorsement and helmet requirements. I personally don't like the idea of messing with Elio's current classifcation as it may have some negative effect and disadvantages to future owners.

I know why EM initiated the newly proposed Federal Autocycle Legislation for it's Elio and it's not to benefit owners. The new classification may eliminate the use of Motorcycle Lanes, increase State registration and licensing fees, requirement to meet 'auto safety' standards, and increase insurance premiums to name a few. My opinion is leave it alone or you open a pandora's autocycle box with government analysis and bill writing. Is there something wrong with the Elio's current MC classification that I'm not aware of?
I think if Elio doesn't at least attempt to influence federal classifications, the first children forced by state law to wear helmets who get broken necks or worse will line up to sue EM. Ironically the very things Elio uses to keep people safe, when used correctly, but under different vehicle operation rules could be deadly. At least if EM attempts to influence legislation and can show concerted efforts, those states with regressive classifications would be more likely to be held liable.
 

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But the general public that considers a reservation because of this form of "first contact" will know before they decide.
If you got that impression, then what's to keep potentials from getting the same impression after a slight bit of research?

The DOE is not going to be impressed by anyone "trying to look more serious and viable".
In all likelyhood, they have enough experience at this to be able to see right through such "attempts".
They may even view it negatively at this point in time as a bad business decision and a waste of money.

In my humble view, in three days all attention and available resources should be directed toward...
The goal of at least one completely finalized and production-ready prototype. That's serious and viable.
I thnk that would bring more reservations than nationwide TV exposure using last year's prototype.

That cracked crystal ball has been used several times in the past. Has it escaped it's mothballs again?

I've always known that spending money to boost reservations indefinitely is not a sustainable system.

At this hour, I don't think EM can afford to spend a cent or a second on 'poke and hope'.
I'm really afraid that there's not enough money, time or manpower to do both goals well.
EM's been given another of what seems to be 9 lives. Another chance.
You don't get many of those.

It's time to focus, reel in a lot of loose ends, and bring the project home.

I don't mean to come across as one of those online journal-hackjobs.
If EM had a perfect record of zero errors, I'd probably not be concerned.
But even with experts advising them, they've pulled some whoppers.

They got this far by dreaming big, inspiring belief, and working like demons.
Continue by all means, but know when to impress by being conservative and BE CAREFUL.

I will now go back to eating my popcorn and leave you to your regularly scheduled programming. :pop2:
Well, without being privy to what's going on behind the curtain, we are all guessing. This maybe one of the things I will want to research after all this is over (one way or another), is why at this time they decided to spend what limited funds there is on some TV spots. But I will say this, I bet there is a darn good reason..
 

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The Elio is currently classified as a motorcycle, with an autocycle subclassification in those States that have passed the 'autocycle' legislation that exempts individual State's MC licensing endorsement and helmet requirements. I personally don't like the idea of messing with Elio's current classifcation as it may have some negative effect and disadvantages to future owners.

I know why EM initiated the newly proposed Federal Autocycle Legislation for it's Elio and it's not to benefit owners. The new classification may eliminate the use of Motorcycle Lanes, increase State registration and licensing fees, requirement to meet 'auto safety' standards, and increase insurance premiums to name a few. My opinion is leave it alone or you open a pandora's autocycle box with government analysis and bill writing. Is there something wrong with the Elio's current MC classification that I'm not aware of?

Yes. You are very correct. States can easily pass a law requiring all autocycles to meet these requirements. It would be easy.

This is why I am All-In for two vehicles. I want to get mine early while they are still classified motorcycles. I believe the Federal Autocycle Legislation will not pass until the federal government sees several of them on the road and EM is going to be around a long time pumping out a lot of them.
 

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Well, without being privy to what's going on behind the curtain, we are all guessing. This maybe one of the things I will want to research after all this is over (one way or another), is why at this time they decided to spend what limited funds there is on some TV spots. But I will say this, I bet there is a darn good reason..
The thought crossed my mind and I hope so too.
But I just can't come up with a possible plausible explanation.
I certainly hope it's a better than the reasons for insistance on the Elgin.

Okay, I'll say it myself... Ouch!
 
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Well, without being privy to what's going on behind the curtain, we are all guessing. This maybe one of the things I will want to research after all this is over (one way or another), is why at this time they decided to spend what limited funds there is on some TV spots. But I will say this, I bet there is a darn good reason..
And the reason is...... drum roll...... They need to pull out all the stops now and get into production this year or they face diminishing returns :drum:
 
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