What Do We Know About The Elio Chassis?

[Kuda]

thanks for remembering, I don't care what they've been saying about you, you're o.k. w/ me!

 

[CrimsonEclipse]

Here you are. These are renderings created by AriLea of the P4 and the updated design.

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Now THIS is interesting.
Smaller front wheels, longer, more swept nose, both will help aerodynamics.
more passenger room/or cargo.

 

[Lil4X]

Given the drawings probably aren't properly scaled, we need to take some of these apparent changes in the pictures with a bit of salt.

It appears that the rear wheel has been pushed back a couple of inches, and given a little fudge factor for perspective, it's larger too. The front window appears to be a little taller, consistent with a slightly lowered beltline and a larger greenhouse. Rear window is considerably longer too, hopefully meaning more room in the back seat to ease my wife's complaints from the second row. At the same time, I think I read that the driver's seat belt will be moved to the right-hand side, clearing the doorway for entrance to the back seat. That'll be a big bonus.

 

[Joshua Caldwell]

Now THAT is a cool idea.

It's on my desk

 

[AriLea]

Given the drawings probably aren't properly scaled, we need to take some of these apparent changes in the pictures with a bit of salt.

It appears that the rear wheel has been pushed back a couple of inches, and given a little fudge factor for perspective, it's larger too. The front window appears to be a little taller, consistent with a slightly lowered beltline and a larger greenhouse. Rear window is considerably longer too, hopefully meaning more room in the back seat to ease my wife's complaints from the second row. At the same time, I think I read that the driver's seat belt will be moved to the right-hand side, clearing the doorway for entrance to the back seat. That'll be a big bonus.

The exact angle of any one of the 2d exports can be a little misleading. Measurements can seem to change a little one way or the other. The image I used to create my 3d and then this 2d export was started from a slide EM created that we captured I call the Red Elio. My guess, working with it, is that it shows only the improved aerodynamic nose as well as the extra 2 inches for the passenger, affecting window shapes, which Paul had publicly talked about. And that's about all the changes I found while creating the 3d. There may also have been a slight change to the location of the Windshield at the bottom, but I couldn't be sure of that, because it was indeed a 2d export from the EM 3d database.

Even though Jerome said the 'Red' is the Year1, there is no reason they can't make more changes if they so choose. I suspect also there would have to be an extremely good reason for any more changes, since what they have now fulfills the stated objects pretty well. They don't like to waist money or time if possible.

I also found that the nose may be a slightly lifted and a underbelly added for that, but I ingnored that since it wouldn't affect the 3d print very much.

 

[John Painter]

The exact angle of any one of the 2d exports can be a little misleading. Measurements can seem to change a little one way or the other. The image I used to create my 3d and then this 2d export was started from a slide EM created that we captured I call the Red Elio. My guess, working with it, is that it shows only the improved aerodynamic nose as well as the extra 2 inches for the passenger, affecting window shapes, which Paul had publicly talked about. And that's about all the changes I found while creating the 3d. There may also have been a slight change to the location of the Windshield at the bottom, but I couldn't be sure of that, because it was indeed a 2d export from the EM 3d database.

Even though Jerome said the 'Red' is the Year1, there is no reason they can't make more changes if they so choose. I suspect also there would have to be an extremely good reason for any more changes, since what they have now fulfills the stated objects pretty well. They don't like to waist money or time if possible.

I also found that the nose may be a slightly lifted and a underbelly added for that, but I ingnored that since it wouldn't affect the 3d print very much.

I think that new nose gives it a bit of the Spy vs Spy profile. No?

 

[Darrellh]

I don' care for the extended nose, the current trend is short front and rear overhangs.

 

[AriLea]

I don' care for the extended nose, the current trend is short front and rear overhangs.

I certainly don't argue against what someone likes or not. But I do like to know what you think. For me it's getting to the point that if I know what classic or typical cars a person likes, I have a fair chance to design overall body lines for a three wheeler (or 4) that person would respond to positively.

I'm less good at coming up with a cutting edge, new style, maybe being just a bit old fashioned about it. I'm beginning to think sometimes new automotive hyper-styling is, IMHO, just a bit 'terkie' ( Yes, as in. miley C ), seeming simply hunting edginess for edginess's sake. But that's just opinion based on what I personally like, of course. lol

 

[John Painter]

I certainly don't argue against what someone likes or not. But I do like to know what you think. For me it's getting to the point that if I know what classic or typical cars a person likes, I have a fair chance to design overall body lines for a three wheeler (or 4) that person would respond to positively.

I'm less good at coming up with a cutting edge, new style, maybe being just a bit old fashioned about it. I'm beginning to think sometimes new automotive hyper-styling is, IMHO, just a bit 'terkie' ( Yes, as in. miley C ), seeming simply hunting edginess for edginess's sake. But that's just opinion based on what I personally like, of course. lol

Great work with the rendering, and I agree with you except I think you meant "twerking" which is done like this.

Or if you really meant "turkey" I'm cool with that too.

I'm even ok if you meant "trekkie"....
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[WilliamH]

I certainly don't argue against what someone likes or not. But I do like to know what you think. For me it's getting to the point that if I know what classic or typical cars a person likes, I have a fair chance to design overall body lines for a three wheeler (or 4) that person would respond to positively.

I'm less good at coming up with a cutting edge, new style, maybe being just a bit old fashioned about it. I'm beginning to think sometimes new automotive hyper-styling is, IMHO, just a bit 'terkie' ( Yes, as in. miley C ), seeming simply hunting edginess for edginess's sake. But that's just opinion based on what I personally like, of course. lol

If I could only find something that has the "feel" of a "'56 long nosed 'D' Jag", a Lotus 7, and a Longbridge Austin-Healey I could be happy.
Of course NHTSA probably wouldn't allow it.