The Elio Automatic Transmission

[zelio]

I haven't driven a car with either of those transmissions.. Has anyone here had any experience with single and dual clutch AMT's that can lend some insight?

Ray

If the AMT has a clutch why bother. The whole purpose of automatic transmission is not to have to use a clutch. :-) Z

 

[goofyone]

If the AMT has a clutch why bother. The whole purpose of automatic transmission is not to have to use a clutch. Z

Based on the conversation this weekend I can confirm that the type of AMT Elio is currently looking at is a normal single clutch manual transmission with an add-on fitted which controls the clutch and gear changes.
Unfortunately for some I can also confirm that the automatic will be extra cost but the price has not yet been determined as they have not completed negotiations.

 

[raybonz]

Based on the conversation this weekend I can confirm that the type of AMT Elio is currently looking at is a normal single clutch manual transmission with an add-on fitted which controls the clutch and gear changes.
Unfortunately for some I can also confirm that the automatic will be extra cost but the price has not yet been determined as they have not completed negotiations.

I am confused here.. Are you saying it's a manual that you have shift but no clutch or a tranny that shifts on its' own with the option to manually shift it? If I would have to shift it I may as well just get a manual trans.. Just sayin'

Ray

 

[goofyone]

I am confused here.. Are you saying it's a manual that you have shift but no clutch or a tranny that shifts on its' own with the option to manually shift it? If I would have to shift it I may as well just get a manual trans.. Just sayin'

Ray

From the drivers point of view the AMT works just like any other automatic, put it in drive and it does its thing. However in the background it's actually a manual transmission that is controlled by a computer.
What is not clear yet is if the Elio AMT will also have a manual mode allowing the driver to control the transmission manually.

 

[2.ooohhh]

I haven't driven a car with either of those transmissions.. Has anyone here had any experience with single and dual clutch AMT's that can lend some insight?

Ray

I have driven, been trained on, and serviced both. The single clutch systems are much simpler and very efficient though do not take as well to very hard driving as the dual clutch systems. The dual clutch systems are far more complex, more expensive, and heavier. For that you get increased shift speed, a more smooth feeling shift, and a more robust unit. That said all the AMT transmissions I was trained on cost more than an entire elio, so I'm very interested to see just how much more expensive they will be than the manual. I am also much more interested in considering an automatic as an option if it's an AMT transmission as I feel that it is a more robust/servicable design than a traditional automatic or a CVT and it reduces drive-train loss within the drive line.

 

[lafrisbee]

With more than half the buyers wanting an automatic I would hope they do not put a POS-type automatic tranny in it...especially if it is the option.

 

[lafrisbee]

I have driven, been trained on, and serviced both. The single clutch systems are much simpler and very efficient though do not take as well to very hard driving as the dual clutch systems. The dual clutch systems are far more complex, more expensive, and heavier. For that you get increased shift speed, a more smooth feeling shift, and a more robust unit. That said all the AMT transmissions I was trained on cost more than an entire elio, so I'm very interested to see just how much more expensive they will be than the manual. I am also much more interested in considering an automatic as an option if it's an AMT transmission as I feel that it is a more robust/servicable design than a traditional automatic or a CVT and it reduces drive-train loss within the drive line.

More please!

 

[Sidecar Bob]

If they use a manual with a clutch and some sort of control system to make it an automatic, why not use 1 system and make it driver selectable? Standard or automatic as wanted.

 

[2.ooohhh]

More please!

What do you want to know?

 

[lafrisbee]

What do you want to know?

I didn't know any of thT so anything you want to share...I am all eyes.