The Elio Automatic Transmission

[W. WIllie]

Prove it!

 

[Coss]

CVT's are very common and get better MPG..

That's not a source; it's a comment.
Just if you didn't know EM = Elio Motors
So just because you made a statement doesn't mean that they, Elio Motors, is going to change their plans to put in a CVT.
Elio Motors is putting in the Asin MMT transmission as the automatic not a CVT.

Plus for every good story you hear about CVT there are an equal number of bad stories.
Most common is having to replace the transmission after 60,000 miles.
As I stated, just because you haven't had that happen, doesn't mean that it hasn't happened to everyone.
It also doesn't automatically make them better than a multi-gear automatic transmission.

 

[Coss]

No maintenance on CVT's.. Traded in an 08 Sentra I bought new with 160,000 miles and CVT needed nothing.. CVT is more efficient and will help with the 84MPG goal..

And there is maintenance on a CVT; plus it doesn't use a normal automatic transmission fluid, there is a special fluid they use that is at least twice as expensive.

 

[pistonboy]

When the automated manual transmission (AMT) shifts gears, it will let up on the gas (computer controlled), 'depress' the clutch, shift gears, let out on the clutch, and depress the gas again. All will be a smooth operation.

However while it shifts, the acceleration will cease, then resume. This will be noticeable, especially during hard acceleration which is how I tend to drive. I am a person who would find it irritating to feel it shift but I am not the person doing it. If I am not controlling the shift, I do not want to feel the shift. That is the reason I prefer a CVT or traditional automatic transmission....I would not be feeling it.

The AMT is a great transmission for people who do not enjoy driving, would probably have the longest life of all automatic transmissions, and is certainly the least expensive. I know millions of people around the world (outside the US) use these and are happy with them. I suspect performance minded motorheads do not.

There is noting wrong with any of these transmissions. It is all personal preference.

 

[Coss]

When the automated manual transmission (AMT) shifts gears, it will let up on the gas (computer controlled), 'depress' the clutch, shift gears, let out on the clutch, and depress the gas again. All will be a smooth operation.

However while it shifts, the acceleration will cease, then resume. This will be noticeable, especially during hard acceleration which is how I tend to drive. I am a person who would find it irritating to feel it shift but I am not the person doing it. If I am not controlling the shift, I do not want to feel the shift. That is the reason I prefer a CVT or traditional automatic transmission....I would not be feeling it.

The AMT is a great transmission for people who do not enjoy driving, would probably have the longest life of all automatic transmissions, and is certainly the least expensive. I know millions of people around the world (outside the US) use these and are happy with them. I suspect performance minded motorheads do not.

There is noting wrong with any of these transmissions. It is all personal preference.

Sometimes it's not a preference, sometimes it's due to physical limitations.
So getting an automatic is the only option for some.
I'd love to have a stick; but my physical limitations makes it just about impossible to use as a daily driver.

 

[wizard of ahs]

The AMT is NOT an automatic !!!!

You all are comparing apples and oranges

 

[pistonboy]

I like this you-tube video showing the CVT pulleys can be seen changing at 3:20 into the video.

 

[WilliamH]

My 2016 Subaru Legacy has CVT but shifts like a regular automatic with 6 virtual gears and also has a manual mode with paddle shifters.. Works well so far and the economy is great.. I average 32-33 MPG with full time AWD in a mid-size car with a 2.5 liter engine which in my opinion is excellent! I suspect CVT will be employed as it is cheaper to produce and more efficient which will help obtain 84 MPG..

Ray

Just happened to look up info on CVTs.
The net / net from what I saw is CVT weighs more and gets worse mileage.
source: ---> http://www.insightcentral.net/KB/faq-cvt.html <---
Oh....... and they cost more.

 

[Coss]

The AMT is NOT an automatic !!!!

You all are comparing apples and oranges

SAT = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-automatic_transmission
MMT = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimode_manual_transmission
AMT = https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-AMT-cars-and-automatic-cars

<Note AMT and MMT are pretty much the same thing, the AMT also includes the difference between the AMT and the Automatic>

There's your book definitions, fight it out from there.

 

[floydv]

au·to·mat·ic
ˌôdəˈmadik/
adjective

1. 1.
   (of a device or process) working by itself with little or no direct human control.
   "an automatic kettle that switches itself off when it boils"
   synonyms: mechanized, mechanical, automated, computerized, electronic, robotic;
   self-activating
   "automatic garage doors"
2. 2.
   done or occurring spontaneously, without conscious thought or intention.
   "automatic physical functions such as breathing"
   synonyms: instinctive, involuntary, unconscious, reflex, knee-jerk, instinctual, subconscious; More

Since an automated manual transmission can shift without any input from the driver (other than stepping on the accelerator), it is by definition an automatic transmission. It may not fit the classic description of an automatic transmission (with torque converter, etc.), but that doesn't mean there's only one way to design a transmission that shifts by itself. Indeed, a CVT is, by definition, an automatic transmission, and there are other types of automatic transmissions beyond the "classic" version.