Laws Of Massachusetts

[Michael Lee]

What I want to know is the license requirements.. Hear anything?

Ray

This is Massachusetts and the best we can hope for here is an "I don't know."

 

[karl]

This is Massachusetts and the best we can hope for here is an "I don't know."

Right now we need to have a motorcycle endorsement to drive one.

 

[raybonz]

Right now we need to have a motorcycle endorsement to drive one.

I have one but feel it is ridiculous to require this for the Elio.. Car driving skills make total sense as there is nothing here but a 3 wheeled car..

Ray

 

[Desertrat57]

Just received a reply from ADOT (Arizona Dept. of Trans.). Here is their take on Elio at this time:

ADOT Response: Good morning. Arizona relies on the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) to determine the classification of vehicles (motor vehicles, motorcycles, motor driven cycles, etc.). Since NHTSA has not yet made a determination on Elio Motors or any 3-wheel vehicle similar to an Elio vehicle, it would be premature for MVD to advise customers on whether or not the Elio vehicle can operate in Arizona’s HOV lanes (as a motorcycle) or even how Arizona would classify these vehicles. Moreover, the Elio vehicle is not in production and, additionally, the Arizona Department of Transportation would have to conduct an inspection of this vehicle before making a final determination. Thank you for using our email service.
7/15/2014 7:23:36 AM

Just thought I would share.

 

[karl]

I play with a car that requires me to wear a helmet. It is of the SA type not a motorcycle one.http://www.smf.org/testing Wearing a helmet in an enclosed vehicle with airbags is actually more hazardous than not wearing one. The skills required to safely operate this vehicle are not the same ones that you need for a conventional motorcycle. This is about the folks that write the regulations not understanding what they are regulating.

 

[raybonz]

I play with a car that requires me to wear a helmet. It is of the SA type not a motorcycle one.http://www.smf.org/testing Wearing a helmet in an enclosed vehicle with airbags is actually more hazardous than not wearing one. The skills required to safely operate this vehicle are not the same ones that you need for a conventional motorcycle. This is about the folks that write the regulations not understanding what they are regulating.

This is why a new vehicle type needs to be created.. the autocycle needs to be defined..

Ray

 

[karl]

The heavy lifting has already been done, http://www.movemag.org/dmv-operations/200-three-to-go.html

 

[Steven Kehoe]

https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXIV/Chapter90/Section1
This is a link to MA general laws Definitions.Due to its enclosed body the Elio is excepted from being a motocycle.

 

[raybonz]

https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXIV/Chapter90/Section1
This is a link to MA general laws Definitions.Due to its enclosed body the Elio is excepted from being a motocycle.

Here is the condensed information.. Good work locating that info Steve! Looks like Mass. will not consider the Elio a motorcycle..

" "Motorcycle'', any motor vehicle having a seat or saddle for the use of the rider and designed to travel on not more than three wheels in contact with the ground, including any bicycle with a motor or driving wheel attached, except a tractor or a motor vehicle designed for the carrying of golf clubs and not more than four persons, an industrial three-wheel truck, a motor vehicle on which the operator and passenger ride within an enclosed cab, or a motorized bicycle."

Ray

 

[zelio]

Here is the condensed information.. Good work locating that info Steve! Looks like Mass. will not consider the Elio a motorcycle..

" "Motorcycle'', any motor vehicle having a seat or saddle for the use of the rider and designed to travel on not more than three wheels in contact with the ground, including any bicycle with a motor or driving wheel attached, except a tractor or a motor vehicle designed for the carrying of golf clubs and not more than four persons, an industrial three-wheel truck, a motor vehicle on which the operator and passenger ride within an enclosed cab, or a motorized bicycle."

Ray

Nice to see you again raybonz. Thank you for extrapolating that. If I had realized you were going to do it I would have skipped reading all that other stuff. LOL Of course this does not change the fact that the Elio is a motorcycle according to Federal regulations and will therefore have a mc vin. Does this mean your Elios will be licensed as cars and therefore pay insurance and other car fees? It will be interesting to see how this all eventually falls into place. :-) Z