Friday's The Big Day ... Or Is It?

[John Painter]

I'd want to go back to the question quoted above.
You know I have some view points that are creative, sometimes dead on and sometimes wild hair-off the mark. But I like to look strategically just a bit ahead and that's risky, but it can pay off.

Here's what I see. Now that we have almost 40k reservations, that part isn't as important to convince additional investment or the ATVM program as it is now important to have matching investment.
Thusly, EM is, for now, focused on having results delivered for the investors view, and not for our pleasure. i.e. everything PR wise is going to be catered to the potential and existing investor and not so much for reservationists or even new reservationists.
And we likely will not see all that is being done for their benefit, for a while.

All that makes sense that EM would set this engine demo specifically to the needs of the 'stakeholders'. Therefore I have to say, this may be a good thing in that it seems important to do this demo right on behalf of the 'stakeholders'. That also says EM expects some results from this, even if it remains in the dark trading rooms of the investors community.
Unfortunately, it means we may not get all the papering we've gotten in the past, other than something like the 'advanced notification' letter we just got.

I suspect reservations are still important to setting the first year production, but EM expects that to pick back up after improvements to any of the following, current investor funding rounds, ATVM approval, engine completion, 25 crash test vehicles.

Conclusion: We reservationist have done our job for now. EM is concentrating now on areas that are less transparent to us.

You summed that up well.

 

[Jeff Porter]

The logical assumption to be made, is that something suddenly came up, and it doesn't have anything to do with the engine. "Several key stakeholders" means more than one. The idea that Paul Elio and at least one other key stakeholder needed to meet right away would be a best fit for sure. What's the reason for a meeting to suddenly come up?

A meteor hit the location of the engine unveiling. *buzzer* The price of aluminum jumped 900% overnight? *buzzer* Scientists have just learned how to make gasoline out of political b.s. *buzzer* The world's supply of creamsicle paint has been stolen by The Joker. That's it!

It is very disappointing. But, life goes on.

 

[Jeff Porter]

That's the address for their new email service mail blasts, I don't see anything unusual with that. I'm just curious if they'll be using the new system to keep reservation holders well in the loop (as they should and the system was purportedly implemented for) or let us swim with the sharks.

John, I was pointing it out because RUCrayze said that his email was not from noreply@eliomotors.com.

 

[goofyone]

I'd want to go back to the question quoted above.
You know I have some view points that are creative, sometimes dead on and sometimes wild hair-off the mark. But I like to look strategically just a bit ahead and that's risky, but it can pay off.

Here's what I see. Now that we have almost 40k reservations, that part isn't as important to convince additional investment or the ATVM program as it is now important to have matching investment.
Thusly, EM is, for now, focused on having results delivered for the investors view, and not for our pleasure. i.e. everything PR wise is going to be catered to the potential and existing investor and not so much for reservationists or even new reservationists.
And we likely will not see all that is being done for their benefit, for a while.

All that makes sense that EM would set this engine demo specifically to the needs of the 'stakeholders'. Therefore I have to say, this may be a good thing in that it seems important to do this demo right on behalf of the 'stakeholders'. That also says EM expects some results from this, even if it remains in the dark trading rooms of the investors community.
Unfortunately, it means we may not get all the pampering we've gotten in the past, other than something like the 'advanced notification' letter we just got.

I suspect reservations are still important to setting the first year production, but EM expects that to pick back up after improvements to any of the following, current investor funding rounds, ATVM approval, engine completion, 25 crash test vehicles.

Conclusion: We reservationist have done our job for now. EM is concentrating now on areas that are less transparent to us.

Realistically this very well could be the case. What EM needs more than anything right now is to ensure they have lined up at least enough funding to complete the engine and vehicle development programs and if they can secure funding through production at this point that's even better.

As annoying as they are right now all these bumps in the road will be mostly forgotten and reservation holders will get back on the EM bandwagon once forward movement on the funding and/or vehicle development fronts become readily apparent.

 

[John Painter]

Realistically this very well could be the case. What EM needs more than anything right now is to ensure they have lined up at least enough funding to complete the engine and vehicle development programs and if they can secure funding through production at this point that's even better.

As annoying as they are right now all these bumps in the road will be mostly forgotten and reservation holders will get back on the EM bandwagon once forward movement on the funding and/or vehicle development fronts become readily apparent.

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[Hotscoots]

Everyone has articulated my feelings on this matter perfectly . There is no plausible reason to delay the starting of the engine as planned . No investor would ask that a simple demonstration of good faith be delayed for any reason. If the engine ran , it would be running tomorrow amidst cheers and congratulations . Logic dictates that It simply doesn't run . Yet

 

[Ekh]

I'd want to go back to the question quoted above.
You know I have some view points that are creative, sometimes dead on and sometimes wild hair-off the mark. But I like to look strategically just a bit ahead and that's risky, but it can pay off.

Here's what I see. Now that we have almost 40k reservations, that part isn't as important to convince additional investment or the ATVM program as it is now important to have matching investment.
Thusly, EM is, for now, focused on having results delivered for the investors view, and not for our pleasure. i.e. everything PR wise is going to be catered to the potential and existing investor and not so much for reservationists or even new reservationists.
And we likely will not see all that is being done for their benefit, for a while.

All that makes sense that EM would set this engine demo specifically to the needs of the 'stakeholders'. Therefore I have to say, this may be a good thing in that it seems important to do this demo right on behalf of the 'stakeholders'. That also says EM expects some results from this, even if it remains in the dark trading rooms of the investors community.
Unfortunately, it means we may not get all the pampering we've gotten in the past, other than something like the 'advanced notification' letter we just got.

I suspect reservations are still important to setting the first year production, but EM expects that to pick back up after improvements to any of the following, current investor funding rounds, ATVM approval, engine completion, 25 crash test vehicles.

Conclusion: We reservationist have done our job for now. EM is concentrating now on areas that are less transparent to us.

Ari, I agree with some of what you've said, but not all of it. Where I'm hung up is with the word "stakeholders." That term implies people who already have skin in the game, not to prospects. Of course, Elio's PR folks may be using the term differently, in which case I'm off-base.

If they're using the term correctly, this isn't about recruitment and waiting til some big shot prospect can make it. But it may well be critical for publicizing that Daddy Warbucks has signed on, and, presto magico, HERE HE IS! (drum rolls, trumpets, and the curtain sweeps aside to reveal ... OZ)

I don't believe they're masking a mechanical failure with the engine. But it could very well be that Paul himself can't be there (ATVM meeting, as G1 suggests, or maybe jury duty -- who knows), or maybe Barack Obama ... definitely not a Saudi prince, they WANT gas-guzzling tanks on the roads.

To your point about the reservationists' work is done ... I don't think so. Reservations have dropped to a trickle. This is not a good sign. They need to be pushing hard for more reservations, not letting that campaign go quiescent.

Part of the problem Elio faces is the short-sightedness of the american public. Gas is cheap today, so who needs an Elio? Jam today, jam tomorrow -- except, of course, that jam runs out (which is the point of the slogan). Gas will go up. But the public is so fickle that today's headlines must be having an effect on the Elio marketing. Hence the need to really push the "that's cool" factor and get those prototypes on the road.

Here endeth the lesson. I guess Elio will clue us in. Meanwhile, if they have told the plain truth in their letter, I congratulate them for their candor and timing. Stay tuned. I for one am nowhere near giving up on my elio.

 

[John Painter]

Everyone has articulated my feelings on this matter perfectly . There is no plausible reason to delay the starting of the engine as planned . No investor would ask that a simple demonstration of good faith be delayed for any reason. If the engine ran , it would be running tomorrow amidst cheers and congratulations . Logic dictates that It simply doesn't run . Yet

Quick poll, which camp does everyone fall into?

 

[Ekh]

A meteor hit the location of the engine unveiling. *buzzer* The price of aluminum jumped 900% overnight? *buzzer* Scientists have just learned how to make gasoline out of political b.s. *buzzer* The world's supply of creamsicle paint has been stolen by The Joker. That's it!

It is very disappointing. But, life goes on.

Love it!

 

[Jim H]

Other cars are really calling my name after this new delay

Hopefully, in my lifetime.........