Rick, different people like different things. For the price of an Arcimoto and an Electrameccanica, a person could buy a Spyder, Venice, or Slingshot, and still have money left over. They would have a real vehicle, already in production, that has far better performance, range, and functionality. Messing up big time? Who knows? They're only, what, 5-6 years behind schedule. They still haven't delivered your trike, even with a $5k surcharge. "You can have your vehicle, but without any doors." doesn't sound like getting things done. Compared to the specs on the Carver, which started your Fly the Road dream, the fuv seems like a compromise, rather than a fulfillment of that dream. As long as you're happy waiting, and are happy if/when it finally shows up, I'm good with that.