The Elio Engine

[floydv]

Here's my forward-looking statement:

I'm looking forward to finally getting the dang thing!

 

[JEBar]

-----A long time reserved, increasingly verging on cynical, reservation holder----

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buy building the E-series and the 100 fleet vehicles they are doing exactly what you say needs to be done ....

 

[Muzhik]

Funny, IAV is on Elio's list of suppliers: About Elio | Elio Motors

But Elio is not on IAV's list of clients: Our Clients – IAV Automotive Engineering

Must just be an out of date site When the Elio gets both the Motor Trend Car of the Year for 2017 AND is in the Cycle World top 10 for 2017, I bet we see them on the website!

Rather, I think IAV is just waiting until the Elio is out on the road for everyone to experience

 

[Sethodine]

1) Is there any indication that Elio, or its partners have been doing any testing of individual and combined components assembled as intended to be configured and sold?
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Just in that one odd combination did the problem manifest itself. The assumption was that as all of the parts had previously been used in other vehicles, they'd be no problem using them in this new combination. If testing was done on this assembly, it failed to reveal the problem. Only testing, in this case by the buyers of the vehicle, revealed the problem.

If I Remember Correctly, the P5 has both the production Engine and production Transmission, and there has been no word on any particular issues in that regard. But as JEBar said, testing those issues is exactly what the E-series is being built for.

 

[Grumpy Cat]

1) Is there any indication that Elio, or its partners have been doing any testing of individual and combined components assembled as intended to be configured and sold?

2) Assembling a bunch of pieces/parts, though proven in other applications but never use in concert with each other, can result in some unforeseen consequences. I recall a problem which occurred with a mid-80's Volvo series. Engine and automatic transmission had not previously been used together. Each had been used in other editions of the vehicle around the world, but not in that exact combination which, for weight considerations, had never been put together. A horrible harmonic boom occurred in the produced cars between the speeds of about 52 mph, and 80 mph. The problem existed only in the vehicles shipped to the US. Months of attempts to solve the problem took place. Turned out that a slightly lighter bell housing was employed in order to be within a weight limit for emissions rules. Switched to heavier bell housing, and removed the under-hood sound deadening pad to stay within the weight limits. My vehicle was shipped back to Sweden, and was the one which was used in testing to solve the problem.

All parts had been used in other cars coming down the line. Just in that one odd combination did the problem manifest itself. The assumption was that as all of the parts had previously been used in other vehicles, they'd be no problem using them in this new combination. If testing was done on this assembly, it failed to reveal the problem. Only testing, in this case by the buyers of the vehicle, revealed the problem.

3) For years, the unofficial motto for GM was, "The public is our test track." I only hope that Elio will not adopt this as their moto. I'd like to see a small series of company owned test vehicles produced and tested for a period of months, conditions, and miles to see what will happen. Time for revisions and further testing with the resulting revisions needs to be built into the equation. If not, the GM motto may well apply.

-----A long time reserved, increasingly verging on cynical, reservation holder----

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Elio Motors Establishes Pilot Operations Center | Elio Momentum v50 | Elio Motors

 

[Marshall]

Could be non-disclosure agreements (NDAs), who knows...

It could also be a requirement that actual purchases be made before appearing on IAV's customer list rather than just speculative preliminary discussions. Or it may not have been updated recently. There are any number of possibilities.

 

[AriLea]

BY the way, when I get my Elio I'm going to see if these plugs have become available; GizMag Link

 

[AriLea]

Elio Motors Establishes Pilot Operations Center | Elio Momentum v50 | Elio Motors

Well, the E-1A, seems pretty important, and we'll hear about it pretty soon. I hope that means with-in a couple weeks. But any run-able E's maybe a while after the E-1A is 'used' setting some important standards for later vehicles that actually drive.

 

[WilliamH]

Well, the E-1A, seems pretty important, and we'll hear about it pretty soon. I hope that means with-in a couple weeks. But any run-able E's maybe a while after the E-1A is 'used' setting some important standards for later vehicles that actually drive.

From the April 21 press release:
"The first E-Series vehicle will be used to calibrate and test the Anti-Lock Braking System supplied by Continental Automotive. As additional E-Series vehicles are completed, they will be used for a variety of aerodynamic, safety and durability testing."

 

[Hotscoots]

BY the way, when I get my Elio I'm going to see if these plugs have become available; GizMag Link

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