The Elio Automatic Transmission

[Muzhik]

And all this ethanol talk has exactly what to do with the AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION ???

Becaaaauuuse ...

...ethanol will damage the automatic transmission? Melt the silicon seals? or something?

 

[floydv]

And all this ethanol talk has exactly what to do with the AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION ???

You guys are missing the connections:

E85 is gasoline with 85% ethanol by volume, 15% RBOB.
Ethanol in gasoline is mostly made from corn.
Most corn ethanol is made in the Midwest, particularly Iowa.
Iowa has sister cities in Japan.
Japan is home to both of Aisin AI's manual transmission manufacturing plants, located in Nishio City and Kira.
And the Elio will have either the manual MC5 or automated manual BC5 transmissions, both made in Japan.

See? Ethanol is connected to Elio!

 

[outsydthebox]

You guys are missing the connections:

E85 is gasoline with 85% ethanol by volume, 15% RBOB.
Ethanol in gasoline is mostly made from corn.
Most corn ethanol is made in the Midwest, particularly Iowa.
Iowa has sister cities in Japan.
Japan is home to both of Aisin AI's manual transmission manufacturing plants, located in Nishio City and Kira.
And the Elio will have either the manual MC5 or automated manual BC5 transmissions, both made in Japan.

See? Ethanol is connected to Elio!

Any time significant quantities of alcohol are involved, topics are bound to stray.

 

[wizard of ahs]

You guys are missing the connections:

E85 is gasoline with 85% ethanol by volume, 15% RBOB.
Ethanol in gasoline is mostly made from corn.
Most corn ethanol is made in the Midwest, particularly Iowa.
Iowa has sister cities in Japan.
Japan is home to both of Aisin AI's manual transmission manufacturing plants, located in Nishio City and Kira.
And the Elio will have either the manual MC5 or automated manual BC5 transmissions, both made in Japan.

See? Ethanol is connected to Elio!

DUH....I should have known

 

[xtspode]

Lots of good information on this thread. The 2-10% less energy per gallon of gas doesn't sound like much when you are only getting 20 mpg. That is only a drop of .5 to 2 mpg, hardly measurable. But in an 85 mpg autocycle that is a little more significant, That is 1.7 to 8.5 mpg drop. So our 85 mpg autocycle might only manage a measly 76.5 mpg. I think a lot of people are going to complain at this if they use the blended fuels. I get the non-ethanol fuels for my non fuel injected motorcycles, plane and small engines because of the damage to some carb parts and fuel lines. The fuel injected engines are not as sensitive to the ethanol and just get the reduced fuel mileage. Looking forward to getting my Elio though to see just how far I can go on a gallon. My 650 KLR dual sport motorcycle manages about 55-65 mpg on a trip, and it doesn't have a heater. I am looking forward to my 60th Birthday Present to myself of a rocket silver Elio in 2017. Go Elio.

 

[xtspode]

Squirrel !! Sorry

 

[Ty]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/7/rethinking-the-ethanol-standard/

 

[Coss]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/7/rethinking-the-ethanol-standard/

Good article.
This line kind of surprised me: Thanks to the rapid expansion of the domestic oil and gas industry, this country has passed Russia and Saudi Arabia as the world’s top energy producer.

 

[Ty]

Good article.
This line kind of surprised me: Thanks to the rapid expansion of the domestic oil and gas industry, this country has passed Russia and Saudi Arabia as the world’s top energy producer.

I thought so to though I didn't fact check it. I just intended to find the mandate for Ethanol. It's been posited that it actually takes more diesel fuel in growing, harvesting, and shipping Ethanol than it actually saves. I don't know about that either but I DO know that Ethanol likes water and it can wreak all kinds of havoc in gas tanks and engines when left unattended for too long.

 

[Chaz]

Ethanol makes your milage worse. Here is a nice article by Road and Track