zelio
Elio Addict
Uh - you believe what you read on FaceBook? Yikes! :-) Z
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Is There Any Physical And Substantial Progress Towards Production Of The Elio?
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CompTrex
Elio Addict
To be fair Z, I would tend to believe what Elio Motors says on their facebook page. It should be their official stance.Uh - you believe what you read on FaceBook? Yikes!Z
That being said, yes, you need to be very careful of the source.
In addition, I still see no where that says 4th qtr, but I have seen Paul Elio mention 3rd qtr, so I'm still a little confused.
I agree with your points and didn't assume carguy had an ax to grind. All I have personally is trust that EM has done what they say and positive speculation. I speculated Elio would reach production status the 12th of whenever back when I first saw the Hello Elio Campaign in 2008.........6 years ago and counting. EM has made physical and substantial progress.
Some won't believe it until they see you driving your Elio down the street, which is totally understandable.
Yikes? I don;t believe but rather TRUST what an Elio Representative tells me on the Elio Facebook Page. Is there some reason I shouldn't?Uh - you believe what you read on FaceBook? Yikes!
I don't trust anybody or anything I read until I have some reasonable facts to support that trust. Trust is earned.
zelio
Elio Addict
You simply said Facebook page. I didn't know whether that meant an Elio source or simply Facebook source. A lot of what I have read on Facebook is so negative I have discounted. :-) Z
I went to Elio's FB and found many comments supporting our preferred anticipated 3rd Quarter 2015 production. I also found many statements by EM saying late 2015 in Shreveport. Whether it's end of the 3rd Q or beginning of 4th Q both are very close.........so not to be confused.
Jerome told me in July that the start of production was projected to be 4th Qtr. of 2015.
Would I bet the farm on that? Nope, I reckon if the crash testing starts this spring they've
got a shot @ that time line, but as has been said numerous times, lots of stuff has to fall
into place first..................my best guess: March 2016............
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james92se
Elio Enthusiast
Have you ever watched new building/restaurants go up in your city/town? Even re-purposing an existing building. It commonly takes 6-7 months to get a simple fast-food chain restaurant built and operating. There's a Krispy Kreme going up in my part of DFW that is basically using (with modifications) an existing Burger King structure and even doing that it's going to take them about 5 months at best. I don't just mean structurally built, I mean actually operating with walk-in customers. And that is with all parties involved "ready to go" immediately. And putting up a fast food restaurant might as well be fingerpainting compared to the immense size of the Elio project.
Just adding up all the tangible progress (or lack thereof) it becomes plainly obvious nothing is coming to fruition next year, or likely even 2016 for that matter. Hiring production staff would take MONTHS and need to be started months out. Populating the facility with Elio-specific tooling and getting it all operating would surely take weeks/months. Not to mention the "retail centers"? As far as I know, Elio has purchased no land etc. We are genuinely still so far out it's not even funny.
Having said that, I'm not a "hater" as I do genuinely want this car, but Elio's timeline could be described as perhaps hopelessly optimistic and anybody who actually believes they'll be driving an Elio next year are either (you choose) naive or gullible.
In May 2014 it was announced that the expected production timeframe had changed from 1st or 2nd quarter of 2015 to 3rd quarter of 2015. Despite much speculation this is actually the only official timeframe change this year. As we are mere weeks from the end of 2014 it appears likely that this one change will also remain the only official change to the timeframe this year.
The reality is that this is a vehicle still very much in the development phase and there will not be much obvious movement on the production side until six months or less before production actually begins.
Elio Motors has told us that we would not see much movement at the plant, other than selling off excess equipment and some moving of equipment around in that process, until about four to six months prior to production with major production hiring not beginning until about 3 months prior to production. So this tells us that even if everything is on schedule nothing on that front would be happening at this time anyway.
The same thing applies to sub-contractors as while we have seen various prototype parts, such as the dash, shocks, and wiring harness, there is no reason for production to begin on these parts until the plant is starting up the pre-production builds and the assembly line begins operation as this will all be produced for just in time delivery.
As for development news Elio Motors has shown us photos of a fully machined and mostly assembled engine and has told us that the engine is currently in testing however we have not yet seen video or photos of the fully assembled engine running on the test stand. From what we know for the 3rd quarter 2015 timeline to be met we should be seeing movement on the chassis development side in the 1st quarter of 2015 as they must complete several months of full vehicle pre-production testing and a full crash test program before they can enter production.
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I thought I mentioned Elio FaceBook, but I agree with you regarding negativity and personal attacks on FB and all social media sites.........to include this one from time to time. Thanks to our moderators it stays quite civil.....they keep us focused on why we are all here..........Elio.You simply said Facebook page. I didn't know whether that meant an Elio source or simply Facebook source. A lot of what I have read on Facebook is so negative I have discounted.