Food/recipe/restuarant Thread

[Folks]

Any seen the smart phone app that allows you to take an all around 3d picture of your favorite dish?

 

[JEBar]

Can't see pics Sounds really good too...

pictures added ....

 

[RKing]

Looks YUMMMM , time to go find some supper!

 

[JEBar]

Beef Brisket

after camping with several folks from Texas, I decided to give smoking a beef brisket a try .... frankly, it came out really well ..

..

pictures 1 & 2 .... the brisket was rubbed down with olive oil .... to form a crust it was then liberally coated with Montreal Steak Seasoning, a second layer of Tex Joy Steak Seasoning, and third layer of McCormick Hot Shot .... I don't know that there is anything magical about this combo, its what we had and it really turned out well

picture 3 .... Smoke Daddy attached to our Holland Companion .... we used an after market Weber regulator set on LOW

pictures 4 - 7 .... brisket after 1 hr, 2 hrs, 3 hrs, 3.5 hrs

picture 8 .... sliced and ready to serve

bottom line : very good/tender, surprisingly very good/tender .... we will most certainly do it again .... next time I may cut it back to 3 hrs and see how it comes out

 

[JEBar]

"Grill It" stove top grill

working RV shows inevitably cost me some money, that's one reason I'm happy to be retired ..

.. at the 2011 Raleigh RV Expo I saw a demonstration of a "Grill It" stove top grill .... yep, I bought one .... my thinking was, after a day's drive when we travel I often want to grill something but usually don't feel much like unpacking the grill and all the other stuff necessary .... over time we tried several electric counter top grills and while they work, the ones that we like best are pretty bulky .... apparently there is a cheap version of the Grill It (Amazon) that that has very poor durability, the pan is painted and it simply can't hold up, we strongly recommend going with the stainless one .... as you can see in the pictures, for the occasion we chose to put some shrimp on the barbee ..

.. in the stainless ring we put a 50/50 mix of soy sauce and water .... the first half of the shrimp came out tasting like shrimp .... in short, couldn't tell any difference in the taste due to the soy sauce .... marinated the other half of the shrimp in soy sauce and grilled them, the came out with a pronounced soy sauce taste .... things we learned:

1. with cooking on medium low to medium heat, this is a slow cooking appliance .... as folks who use prefer grilling on a Holland grill, slow cooking suits us just fine

2. as advertised, it works well on a glass top stove

3. clean-up of the center cooking grate is easy .... clean-up of the stainless ring is similar to cleaning any stainless pan .... in short, took a bit of soaking after which it wiped clean easily

4. since the soy/water mixture didn't seem to make much difference, next time we will use just water .... that should make cleaning the ring much easier

picture 1 ... our Grill It

pictures 2 - 3 .... shrimp on the barbie

pictures 4 - 5 .... excellent with meatloaf, the grease drops away

pictures 6 - 7 .... burgers

we use it both at home and when we are on the road .... all-in-all we are pleased with it

 

[NSTG8R]

Where do you put the hickory chips?

 

[JEBar]

Where do you put the hickory chips?

actually there is a place built into the chrome ring where water or sauces can be poured to help season while cooking .... liquid smoke mixed with water can be used .... that said, I haven noticed that it makes much difference

 

[RUCRAYZE]

I tried to tell you! Yea I know it's from THE government, and how dare they even tell us what to eat.It's gov. going over the line- lol

Federal report: Vegan diet best for planet


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By Lydia Wheeler - 04/05/15 02:59 PM EDT

A federal panel that helps set federal dietary guidelines is recommending Americans eat less meat because it’s better for the environment, sparking outrage from industry groups representing the nation’s purveyors of beef, pork and poultry.

The Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee, a federally appointed panel of nutritionists created in 1983, decided for the first time this year to factor in environmental sustainability in its recommendations. They include a finding that a diet lower in animal-based foods is not only healthier, but has less of an environmental impact.

The meat industry is lashing back, contending the panel has neither the authority nor the expertise to make such a judgment.


“When you talk about the lens of the dietary guidelines it’s just not appropriate for the advisory committee to enter that conversation when they were asked to look at nutrition and health science,” said Kristina Butts, executive director of legislative affairs for the National Cattlemen’s Beef Association.

The North American Meat Institute (NAMI) agrees, saying sustainability is a complex issue best left to a body that specializes in the environment.

“The same concern would exist if an expert sustainability committee were making nutrition policy recommendations,” Betsy Booren, NAMI’s vice president of scientific Affairs, said in a public meeting last week. “It is not appropriate for the person designing a better light bulb to be telling Americans how to make a better sandwich.”

The Agriculture Department and Department of Health and Human Services will use the committee’s report and recommendations to draft the final guidelines for 2015, due out later this year.

But even Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack has said sustainability is an issue that falls outside the scope of the guidelines.

“I read the actual law,” he was quoted saying in an interview with The Wall Street Journal. “And what I read … was that our job ultimately is to formulate dietary and nutrition guidelines. And I emphasize dietary and nutrition because that’s what the law says. I think it’s my responsibility to follow the law.”

But members of the committee say they had free reign to discuss food supply in recommending what people should and shouldn’t be eating.

“The scope is ours to fully define,” said Barbara Millen, chairwoman of the advisory committee and a professor in the Department of Family Medicine at Boston University School of Medicine.

“Because we are encouraging Americans to eat more seafood, we felt we needed to look at the sustainability of that issue as well.”

In response to the claims about a lack of expertise, Millen said the panel did bring in two domestic sustainability experts to work with the committee members.

The 571-page report says the average U.S. diet has a larger environmental impact in terms of increased greenhouse gas emissions, land use, water use, and energy use than the healthy dietary pattern it suggests — one that’s rich in vegetables, fruit, whole grains, seafood, legumes and nuts; moderate in low- and non-fat dairy products and alcohol; and lower in red and processed meat, sugar-sweetened foods and beverages, and refined grains.

In its review of scientific studies, the committee highlighted research concluding that a vegan diet had the most potential health benefits.

"The organically grown vegan diet also had the lowest estimated impact on resources and ecosystem quality, and the average Italian diet had the greatest projected impact,” according to the report. “Beef was the single food with the greatest projected impact on the environment; other foods estimated to have high impact included cheese, milk, and seafood."

The committee’s report says people should eat less red and processed meat because it contains saturated fats, which when over-consumed can lead to cardiovascular disease, and instead recommends Americans eat more vegetables and nuts.

But industry groups argue that meat contains protein, which helps people feel fuller for longer periods of time. Eating meat, Butts said can help people stick to their diets better.

Though consumers have never been known to strictly follow the final guidelines, NAMI’s Spokesman Eric Mittenthal said the recommendations do impact federal programs like school lunches, WIC, the special supplemental nutrition program for women, infants and children, and military rations.

But Millen said industry is misunderstanding their report, and overreacting.

She said the committee mapped out three diets for Americans to use as guidelines – a vegetarian-style, a Mediterranean-style, and a healthy U.S.-style diet.

“If people took the time to understand, this is not a meat-free diet and this is not vegan approach, they’d realize this is a healthy dietary pattern with three models that offers consumers a lot of choice,” she said.

The committee’s vice chair Alice Lichtenstein said there’s also a misunderstanding in the meat industry about what the committee actually does.

“We’re tasked with delivering a report to HHS and USDA,” she said. “We don’t know how much will be factored into the final guidelines or not. Our job is to collate and review the evidence out there and deliver it to the secretaries.”

On Tuesday, Rep. Vicky Hartzler (R-Mo.) and 70 House Republicans sent a letter to HHS and USDA urging the final dietary guidelines to be based on sound nutritional science and adhere to the charter authorized by Congress.

In the letter, the lawmakers said they believe the advisory committee “greatly exceeded their scope in developing the recommendations for the secretaries of USDA and HHS.”

“It is the responsibility of the secretaries to ensure that this advisory committee stay focused on nutritional recommendations and not the wider policy realm of sustainability and tax policy, in which members of this committee had neither expertise, evidence, nor charter,” they wrote.

HHS and USDA have extended the written comment period from April 8 to May 8 to give the public additional time to comment on the advisory committee’s report.

An HHS spokesperson said the departments would review the report, along with input from federal agencies and public comments to develop the final 2015 guidelines.

The department would not answer questions about whether the topic of sustainability was within the committee’s purview or whether the agency plans to factor sustainability into the final guidelines.



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[DWR]

I tried to tell you! Yea I know it's from THE government, and how dare they even tell us what to eat.It's gov. going over the line- lol

Federal report: Vegan diet best for planet


1414
By Lydia Wheeler - 04/05/15 02:59 PM EDT

A federal panel that helps set federal dietary guidelines is recommending Americans eat less meat because it’s better for the environment, sparking outrage from industry groups representing the nation’s purveyors of beef, pork and poultry.

The Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee, a federally appointed panel of nutritionists created in 1983, decided for the first time this year to factor in environmental sustainability in its recommendations. They include a finding that a diet lower in animal-based foods is not only healthier, but has less of an environmental impact.

The meat industry is lashing back, contending the panel has neither the authority nor the expertise to make such a judgment.


“When you talk about the lens of the dietary guidelines it’s just not appropriate for the advisory committee to enter that conversation when they were asked to look at nutrition and health science,” said Kristina Butts, executive director of legislative affairs for the National Cattlemen’s Beef Association.

The North American Meat Institute (NAMI) agrees, saying sustainability is a complex issue best left to a body that specializes in the environment.

“The same concern would exist if an expert sustainability committee were making nutrition policy recommendations,” Betsy Booren, NAMI’s vice president of scientific Affairs, said in a public meeting last week. “It is not appropriate for the person designing a better light bulb to be telling Americans how to make a better sandwich.”

The Agriculture Department and Department of Health and Human Services will use the committee’s report and recommendations to draft the final guidelines for 2015, due out later this year.

But even Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack has said sustainability is an issue that falls outside the scope of the guidelines.

“I read the actual law,” he was quoted saying in an interview with The Wall Street Journal. “And what I read … was that our job ultimately is to formulate dietary and nutrition guidelines. And I emphasize dietary and nutrition because that’s what the law says. I think it’s my responsibility to follow the law.”

But members of the committee say they had free reign to discuss food supply in recommending what people should and shouldn’t be eating.

“The scope is ours to fully define,” said Barbara Millen, chairwoman of the advisory committee and a professor in the Department of Family Medicine at Boston University School of Medicine.

“Because we are encouraging Americans to eat more seafood, we felt we needed to look at the sustainability of that issue as well.”

In response to the claims about a lack of expertise, Millen said the panel did bring in two domestic sustainability experts to work with the committee members.

The 571-page report says the average U.S. diet has a larger environmental impact in terms of increased greenhouse gas emissions, land use, water use, and energy use than the healthy dietary pattern it suggests — one that’s rich in vegetables, fruit, whole grains, seafood, legumes and nuts; moderate in low- and non-fat dairy products and alcohol; and lower in red and processed meat, sugar-sweetened foods and beverages, and refined grains.

In its review of scientific studies, the committee highlighted research concluding that a vegan diet had the most potential health benefits.

"The organically grown vegan diet also had the lowest estimated impact on resources and ecosystem quality, and the average Italian diet had the greatest projected impact,” according to the report. “Beef was the single food with the greatest projected impact on the environment; other foods estimated to have high impact included cheese, milk, and seafood."

The committee’s report says people should eat less red and processed meat because it contains saturated fats, which when over-consumed can lead to cardiovascular disease, and instead recommends Americans eat more vegetables and nuts.

But industry groups argue that meat contains protein, which helps people feel fuller for longer periods of time. Eating meat, Butts said can help people stick to their diets better.

Though consumers have never been known to strictly follow the final guidelines, NAMI’s Spokesman Eric Mittenthal said the recommendations do impact federal programs like school lunches, WIC, the special supplemental nutrition program for women, infants and children, and military rations.

But Millen said industry is misunderstanding their report, and overreacting.

She said the committee mapped out three diets for Americans to use as guidelines – a vegetarian-style, a Mediterranean-style, and a healthy U.S.-style diet.

“If people took the time to understand, this is not a meat-free diet and this is not vegan approach, they’d realize this is a healthy dietary pattern with three models that offers consumers a lot of choice,” she said.

The committee’s vice chair Alice Lichtenstein said there’s also a misunderstanding in the meat industry about what the committee actually does.

“We’re tasked with delivering a report to HHS and USDA,” she said. “We don’t know how much will be factored into the final guidelines or not. Our job is to collate and review the evidence out there and deliver it to the secretaries.”

On Tuesday, Rep. Vicky Hartzler (R-Mo.) and 70 House Republicans sent a letter to HHS and USDA urging the final dietary guidelines to be based on sound nutritional science and adhere to the charter authorized by Congress.

In the letter, the lawmakers said they believe the advisory committee “greatly exceeded their scope in developing the recommendations for the secretaries of USDA and HHS.”

“It is the responsibility of the secretaries to ensure that this advisory committee stay focused on nutritional recommendations and not the wider policy realm of sustainability and tax policy, in which members of this committee had neither expertise, evidence, nor charter,” they wrote.

HHS and USDA have extended the written comment period from April 8 to May 8 to give the public additional time to comment on the advisory committee’s report.

An HHS spokesperson said the departments would review the report, along with input from federal agencies and public comments to develop the final 2015 guidelines.

The department would not answer questions about whether the topic of sustainability was within the committee’s purview or whether the agency plans to factor sustainability into the final guidelines.



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"Vegetarian". Old Indian word for "Bad Hunter"LOL. Really RU, I wouldn't DARE to try to tell you what you should eat. But let's look at nature. Have you ever noticed that herbivore's eyes are on the sides of their heads, and carnivore's eyes face straight ahead? Personally, I'm not one to go against nature. Now, if you have to turn your head to the left, or right to read this, then I'll have to agree with you. Of course, this is all in fun, and NO disrespect is intended. Elio on brother!

 

[NSTG8R]

"Vegetarian". Old Indian word for "Bad Hunter"LOL. Really RU, I wouldn't DARE to try to tell you what you should eat. But let's look at nature. Have you ever noticed that herbivore's eyes are on the sides of their heads, and carnivore's eyes face straight ahead? Personally, I'm not one to go against nature. Now, if you have to turn your head to the left, or right to read this, then I'll have to agree with you. Of course, this is all in fun, and NO disrespect is intended. Elio on brother!

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I'm still laughing on this one! Sorry, RU. I'm with DWR on this one!


Edit: That's a 'personal record' 5 LOL emoticons given on one thread...made my day!