Elio Motors Engine Unveiling 2/6/2015 -3/6/2015

[wheaters]

I can't help comparing the Elio to another recent start-up company who also scratch built their engine. In fact, rather than upgrading an existing engine design, they wiped the slate completely clean and began again.

 

[John Painter]

I can't help comparing the Elio to another recent start-up company who also scratch built their engine. In fact, rather than upgrading an existing engine design, they wiped the slate completely clean and began again.

They are not inexpensive bikes. Fast is good, reliability is more important to me, I'm waiting for the day I can get an Africa Twin.

 

[tonyspumoni]

'only' 3 weeks...

I mean... I understand waiting to unveil everything at once, but allowing it to completely fall off the map is strange.
It seems to me that the engine (if it works as we're all speculating) is a huge milestone for them.
They could be trickling information to build/maintain hype, but they're not saying a word. That's just bizarre to me.
A 30 second teaser video wouldn't reduce the impact of the actual event, it would just build hype. It would cost very little to produce in terms of the press/excitement it would make.
Something like this, only with an engine.

Exactly.

 

[tonyspumoni]

This was meant to be a show for the public.... ahem, us.

Any investors who cared to see it run, sniff the oil pan, or caress the cam cover have long since done that.

This is true, John, but potential investors will also be on the lookout for professionalism and competency and this episode that is not. Heck, if we are to take this at face value then just whose schedule was too conflicted for this? Not Paul's - he's on the total public relations treadmill. One or more board members? So I'm another investor and I see them acting all crazy and that's supposed to inspire confidence? Heck, they are the board. They had to have known about the event OR the PR group is bozo and didn't tell them (bad).

How about a show of hands? How many of us think the delay built confidence as opposed to increased head scratching?

 

[JEBar]

How about a show of hands? How many of us think the delay built confidence as opposed to increased head scratching?

I don't know of anyone outside of EM that understands the way EM has handled this delay .... at this point the only thing I know of that I can do is sit back and watch .... unless I miss guess, the time that EM has left to get the show on the road is shrinking fairly quickly so it won't be long and time will tell

 

[WilliamH]

This is true, John, but potential investors will also be on the lookout for professionalism and competency and this episode that is not. Heck, if we are to take this at face value then just whose schedule was too conflicted for this? Not Paul's - he's on the total public relations treadmill. One or more board members? So I'm another investor and I see them acting all crazy and that's supposed to inspire confidence? Heck, they are the board. They had to have known about the event OR the PR group is bozo and didn't tell them (bad).

How about a show of hands? How many of us think the delay built confidence as opposed to increased head scratching?

Sounds like Tony is feeling heat cause he is perceived as having made a bad investment by his peers.
And that being the case he is trying to fluff up his ego by showing us his business acumen.

 

[John Painter]

Sounds like Tony is feeling heat cause he is perceived as having made a bad investment by his peers.
And that being the case he is trying to fluff up his ego by showing us his business acumen.

Sounds like he's frazzled like the rest of us to me.

 

[Ty]

This is true, John, but potential investors will also be on the lookout for professionalism and competency and this episode that is not. Heck, if we are to take this at face value then just whose schedule was too conflicted for this? Not Paul's - he's on the total public relations treadmill. One or more board members? So I'm another investor and I see them acting all crazy and that's supposed to inspire confidence? Heck, they are the board. They had to have known about the event OR the PR group is bozo and didn't tell them (bad).

How about a show of hands? How many of us think the delay built confidence as opposed to increased head scratching?

They said the problem was with IAV, not an Elio person.

 

[JEBar]

They said the problem was with IAV, not an Elio person.

its become pretty clear that this point can be made over and over again but some folks will choose not to believe it

 

[tonyspumoni]

Sounds like Tony is feeling heat cause he is perceived as having made a bad investment by his peers.
And that being the case he is trying to fluff up his ego by showing us his business acumen.

Will,

Nah. Not bent about be perceived as anything. Puzzled yes, bent no. [And for the record, business accumen is not a term I would at all use to describe any skills I possess. I have a great deal of experience working with startups and capital providers and I work in an industry where companies rise and fall, both public and private. I am sharing what I know which I have readily on more than one occasion acknowledged (as recently a today in fact) could make me totally wrong.]

I'm merely making the point that the delay was handled badly and, in absence of a hard answer on a point so critical as this one, that it was highly unlikely to be have been by chance as it has been portrayed.

Of course we shall see. But the regretable pattern to date has been hype, huff, and delay and until I see otherwise, I fear that this is what we are seeing again.