Elio Gauge Cluster - Lord Elgin? - Other Options?

[Joshua Caldwell]

Designed for 65mph efficiency actualy.

 

[W. WIllie]

I agree with JC on his statement. If you drive most vehicles today in that MAX speed range the mpg will be a little better than what the EPA results are.
Of course the terrain will have a big effect on that mpg.
Also it should be noted that with the new vehicles with a CVT type transmission, the mfg. try to keep the rpm's in the 2300-2500 rpm. range.(My opinion)

The hardest part is getting the general public to drive at that speed.
The earlier ads for the Elio said "85mpg" now the ads have been changed to say "Up to 85mpg".

Willie

 

[DanS]

I agree with JC on his statement. If you drive most vehicles today in that MAX speed range the mpg will be a little better than what the EPA results are.
Of course the terrain will have a big effect on that mpg.
Also it should be noted that with the new vehicles with a CVT type transmission, the mfg. try to keep the rpm's in the 2300-2500 rpm. range.(My opinion)

The hardest part is getting the general public to drive at that speed.
The earlier ads for the Elio said "85mpg" now the ads have been changed to say "Up to 85mpg".

Willie

I'm thinking a new thread is in order!

 

[DanS]

Designed for 65mph efficiency actualy.

At least that's better than 55mph

 

[ecdriver711]

Dear Paul Elio,
Make the car and do it the way you want. I'm ready to get one, yesterday.

 

[W. WIllie]

Common (cents) sense tells you that it will be OBD compliant. How many vehicles mfg. now are not compliant?
Because the FEDS are involved, it will more than likely be required and regulated.

Willie

 

[CompTrex]

Common (cents) sense tells you that it will be OBD compliant. How many vehicles mfg. now are not compliant?
Because the FEDS are involved, it will more than likely be required and regulated.

Willie

How many motorcycles ARE OBD II compliant? From what I've read, there will be no access to streaming data, as in speed, tach, etc.

 

[nickskeys]

Well, I guess this design is also null and void. I liked the airy openness of this design and its inherent simplicity.

 

[goofyone]

Sounds like a good plan. What do you estimate the cost of enabling OBD-II data streaming? Is this something you can do or would you have someone else do it?

I am actually in the beginning stages of planning a product which will do this and which hopefully I can make available to all Elio Owners. I don't know yet exactly what something like this would cost however I have had a preliminary discussion with EM about this and they are willing to provide documentation once I get my ducks in a row and jump some hurdles (NDA...) so we will see what play over the next year or so.

For those who do not know EM has told us that the vehicle will have an OBD-II port which will work with tools to deliver diagnostic fault codes and such however it will not support the streaming of live data from various sensors which is common in many vehicles today. From what I can find the OBD-II data streaming component is not even required by law in cars so even without this it would appear that EM is meeting the legal standard for cars even if they are actually building a motorcycle.

The sensors are in the vehicle already and are streaming this data however the ECU/PCM they are using is very inexpensive, only currently used in developing countries, and is not designed to host this information.

 

[goofyone]

Well, I guess this design is also null and void. I liked the airy openness of this design and its inherent simplicity.

That is the P3 style dashboard which is definitely a different shape from the P4 style. You can see it in this compilation I made of all the dashes beginning with the P2 on top.