Anyone Else Think It Wont Happen?

[Mike W]

Not too sure why you keep repeating yourself, I, and probably others get it. Not only do I get, and as you know fully agree with you, but I've let it go. Time to move on. Listen I'm still pissed when the Dodgers left Brooklyn!! Life's to short and precious to sweat the small stuff, you've heard it and we both know that the 1k all in was basically an (early) hope at a project that has the potential to change the whole concept of personal transport.
The further implications can be staggering- as a member of the armed forces, you know first-hand how many have died in the pursuit of oil. The E can make us even more energy self-sufficient.

This being tax season, and perhaps ease your pain, why not take the 1k as a charitable deduction to a
non-profit (LOL)

Hope is a good thing, it's the best of things. I hadn't thought of the possible impact in the area reducing "oil conflict". Risking some cash to be able to reduce our service men fighting over a mineral that has caused and will continue to cause havoc is worth it. Thanks for bringing up that insight!

 

[RUCRAYZE]

I am all in at $1000 have been 24 hours after I read about the ELIO.

Yep I knew that from your number, I was in only 10 days ahead (earlier), and there are 1k numbers between us. I too went right in after seeing a news story, no research, just couldn't believe I could afford such a great looking machine to replace years of bike riding, (first impression about20k) If it times out we might both be getting them the same week!!
Yes i know IF. (lol)

 

[Rickb]

Repeating the fact that Elio needs funding is important for those newbies thinking about going all-in at this point in time. The pre-order risk is greater now than it seemed a year ago or even a couple of weeks ago when newbies went all-in one day only to hear news of the the delay the next.

Discussion of Elio's maximum pre-order goal and how many Elios can be produced once production actually begins is also repetitious. Lack of funding reminders and discussion is more important at this point in the process.

I let it go too, but now we are certain of the fact funding is EM's life support allowing them to get back on track to production. It's the think it won't happen forum, but I'm still reasonably sure funding will materialize.

 

[WilliamH]

I keep reading all of the "Nay Sayers" in various places that insist that the Elio won't happen because they are not meeting certain projected dates. But as I read their little rants I can't help but think about another car manufacturer that strangely has four letters and and also has missed some critical dates. Perhaps you have heard of the company I am talking about.
They started putting small displacement, turbocharged, v6 engines in full sized trucks in 2011. Everyone said that they would never be able to sell turbo charged v6 engines into the truck market. I think I paid about $45K for my 2011 4x4 version.
Then they started talking about an aluminum bodied truck and the same skeptics said it didn't make sense and couldn't be done. So they were off by about four months on general availability and the stock analysts started shouting that they would lose too much market share and it would cost too much to do body work. (I thought the objective was to not get in an accident). Right now if you want to special order you can expect about 60 days delay and $0 incentives.
So if one of the largest car companies in the world can spend years in development for a product roll out, why are we letting "Chicken Little" rain on our parade by yelling "The sky is falling"?
The only thing the Elio may be guilty of at this point if failing to manage expectations. And with an undertaking of this size and scope, it's pretty hard to make all of your dates. After all, this would be like a young fellow named Henry Ford trying to build his company from the ground up while telling people what he was doing every step of the way.

 

[Smitty901]

Yep I knew that from your number, I was in only 10 days ahead (earlier), and there are 1k numbers between us. I too went right in after seeing a news story, no research, just couldn't believe I could afford such a great looking machine to replace years of bike riding, (first impression about20k) If it times out we might both be getting them the same week!!
Yes i know IF. (lol)

My plans were to play with the first one, let granddaughter try it out, let daughter run it around then give it to one of them and order another. I was ready to go all in on a second one until I had a feeling that there was a money issue.

 

[Mike W]

I keep reading all of the "Nay Sayers" in various places that insist that the Elio won't happen because they are not meeting certain projected dates. But as I read their little rants I can't help but think about another car manufacturer that strangely has four letters and and also has missed some critical dates. Perhaps you have heard of the company I am talking about.
They started putting small displacement, turbocharged, v6 engines in full sized trucks in 2011. Everyone said that they would never be able to sell turbo charged v6 engines into the truck market. I think I paid about $45K for my 2011 4x4 version.
Then they started talking about an aluminum bodied truck and the same skeptics said it didn't make sense and couldn't be done. So they were off by about four months on general availability and the stock analysts started shouting that they would lose too much market share and it would cost too much to do body work. (I thought the objective was to not get in an accident). Right now if you want to special order you can expect about 60 days delay and $0 incentives.
So if one of the largest car companies in the world can spend years in development for a product roll out, why are we letting "Chicken Little" rain on our parade by yelling "The sky is falling"?
The only thing the Elio may be guilty of at this point if failing to manage expectations. And with an undertaking of this size and scope, it's pretty hard to make all of your dates. After all, this would be like a young fellow named Henry Ford trying to build his company from the ground up while telling people what he was doing every step of the way.

We are a ranty bunch! Most of the ranters still at heart back the Elio whole heartedly, they just like to express what they are thinking. And yes, there are skeptics in the mix too but overall we are on board for the ride and enjoy exchanging opinions (agreeing with, disagreeing with or agreeing to disagree). A good cross section of people that makes it all work. And yes, Ford is in our pantheon of Auto Industry Luminaries. So welcome, enjoy, get frustrated, experience the occasional rush or panic. It all comes with the price of admission!

 

[grampi]

I would rather wait a little longer and receive a vehicle with the bugs worked out than to receive one earlier with the bugs still in it (I want a thorough fumigation to get all those bug out.) I believe EM wants to follow the spot in line list but may deviate from it in the early days.

I don't think anyone would disagree. My contention is that Elio should be keeping us aware of any delays and what's causing them...all of them...whether they're obligated to do so or not...

 

[grampi]

I'm not a nay sayer, in fact, I still believe it's going to happen. I just think if Elio did a better job of keeping us informed about delays and what's causing them, there would be far fewer doubters...

 

[Jim H]

I keep reading all of the "Nay Sayers" in various places that insist that the Elio won't happen because they are not meeting certain projected dates. But as I read their little rants I can't help but think about another car manufacturer that strangely has four letters and and also has missed some critical dates. Perhaps you have heard of the company I am talking about.
They started putting small displacement, turbocharged, v6 engines in full sized trucks in 2011. Everyone said that they would never be able to sell turbo charged v6 engines into the truck market. I think I paid about $45K for my 2011 4x4 version.
Then they started talking about an aluminum bodied truck and the same skeptics said it didn't make sense and couldn't be done. So they were off by about four months on general availability and the stock analysts started shouting that they would lose too much market share and it would cost too much to do body work. (I thought the objective was to not get in an accident). Right now if you want to special order you can expect about 60 days delay and $0 incentives.
So if one of the largest car companies in the world can spend years in development for a product roll out, why are we letting "Chicken Little" rain on our parade by yelling "The sky is falling"?
The only thing the Elio may be guilty of at this point if failing to manage expectations. And with an undertaking of this size and scope, it's pretty hard to make all of your dates. After all, this would be like a young fellow named Henry Ford trying to build his company from the ground up while telling people what he was doing every step of the way.

William, welcome from New Mexico, Land of Enchantment, and miles of great roads for the Elio. You hit the nail on the head with your comment about it being difficult for Elio to manage expectations.

 

[outsydthebox]

I keep reading all of the "Nay Sayers" in various places that insist that the Elio won't happen because they are not meeting certain projected dates. But as I read their little rants I can't help but think about another car manufacturer that strangely has four letters and and also has missed some critical dates. Perhaps you have heard of the company I am talking about.
They started putting small displacement, turbocharged, v6 engines in full sized trucks in 2011. Everyone said that they would never be able to sell turbo charged v6 engines into the truck market. I think I paid about $45K for my 2011 4x4 version.
Then they started talking about an aluminum bodied truck and the same skeptics said it didn't make sense and couldn't be done. So they were off by about four months on general availability and the stock analysts started shouting that they would lose too much market share and it would cost too much to do body work. (I thought the objective was to not get in an accident). Right now if you want to special order you can expect about 60 days delay and $0 incentives.
So if one of the largest car companies in the world can spend years in development for a product roll out, why are we letting "Chicken Little" rain on our parade by yelling "The sky is falling"?
The only thing the Elio may be guilty of at this point if failing to manage expectations. And with an undertaking of this size and scope, it's pretty hard to make all of your dates. After all, this would be like a young fellow named Henry Ford trying to build his company from the ground up while telling people what he was doing every step of the way.

Hey William, Welcome from E.Tennessee. Always good to hear from someone with reasonable expectations.