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What's the next real Elio news?

  • Elio certifies gas mileage over 80 mpg

    Votes: 9 15.5%
  • Building starts on E1-d through E1-p

    Votes: 24 41.4%
  • Configurator adds 8 or more new options

    Votes: 7 12.1%
  • ATVM loan announced

    Votes: 12 20.7%
  • Elio announces private placement of stock worth >$50M

    Votes: 3 5.2%
  • Steel or plastic body panels decision made

    Votes: 15 25.9%

  • Total voters
    58

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The problem is, they will probably complete something and then announce it after it is complete.

An example: I am working on a project that we have agreed to not announce upcoming tests. Instead we will announce the results of the tests after they are completed. At out last meeting, we had a lot of people come that only got in the way of the central participants of the meeting.

The christening of the engine was announced before it occurred. Then when it was canceled, there was a big backlash.

I suspect EM will announce a lot of progress after it is completed. If this is the situation, they would actually be farther ahead of where they appear.

(I would love for them to be farther ahead than they appear.)
DITTO :)

Here is an announcement that I haven't seen any place yet. Was looking at Google maps of Shreveport and saw Elio's name listed for the old GM plant

www.google.com/maps/search/general+motors+near+Shreveport,+LA/@32.4263349,-93.9220395,16.25z
Well..........if it's on the Internet.......it MUST be true :p

I'm not sure we'll get announcements about batches of tests being completed, though we MAY get certain key results made public The reason: the test program is woven like a Jacquard tapestry: 23 cars doing 60+ tests, with a schedule that has to weave in and out to get them done. So it may take a couple of months to test, say, under hood thermal characteristics, because different cars may be doing that test at different times, and 4 cars are needed for that testing.. We do know Continental's doing the brake refinement (which involves testing, of course) now. And we know that as soon as possible one of these cars is going to be tested for mpg.

We know a little more about that. EPA wants the test to be "worst case" -- the heaviest car, all possible options, A/C running, etc. The EPA requires that ton the grounds that all he bells and whistles add to weight. Since Elio doesn't have its option list defined, this may slow down the gas mileage testing. Or perhaps they'll just add 100 extra pounds to compensate for things like the heated leather seat. Either way, Elio MUST get the mileage testing done to receive the ATVM loan. So I do think we'll see an announcement on that one test (which takes about 1 day to do at a qualified facility) sooner rather than later.

But they can't do the EPA test and still be messing around with things like frame and panel choices, or the brakes, for that matter. The EPA test car has be a running, fully-dressed model of the production vehicle. (No bait-and-switch permitted by EPA). The need for the official EPA test is real, but it can't be run until they have a road-worthy car. INFORMALLY, I bet they test the E-1 ASAP, and certainly test it on a road somewhere. That could be done as soon as the brakes are complete. There reason for doing that, aside from burning curiosity, is to see if they have to do anything more to boost MPG. They need to know that to start homing in on the real price of the car (which DOE ALSO requires, as part of the proof of financial viability requirement for the loan). Elio also needs to lock down the price and mileage as soon as possible because they've got to re-tune ALL their advertising, replacing "targeted" values with definite ones, both of which will most likely be "worse" than the goal values of 84 mpg / $6800.. Accordingly, the sooner they have a firm handle on cost and mpg, the sooner they can start dealing with reality in their PR and advertising.

It's kind of a dance, really -- and a lot of fun to watch.
Do motorcycles get EPA tested ???? (NOT being a smart @$$...:), I just don't know.)
 

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I'm not sure we'll get announcements about batches of tests being completed, though we MAY get certain key results made public The reason: the test program is woven like a Jacquard tapestry: 23 cars doing 60+ tests, with a schedule that has to weave in and out to get them done. So it may take a couple of months to test, say, under hood thermal characteristics, because different cars may be doing that test at different times, and 4 cars are needed for that testing.. We do know Continental's doing the brake refinement (which involves testing, of course) now. And we know that as soon as possible one of these cars is going to be tested for mpg.

We know a little more about that. EPA wants the test to be "worst case" -- the heaviest car, all possible options, A/C running, etc. The EPA requires that ton the grounds that all he bells and whistles add to weight. Since Elio doesn't have its option list defined, this may slow down the gas mileage testing. Or perhaps they'll just add 100 extra pounds to compensate for things like the heated leather seat. Either way, Elio MUST get the mileage testing done to receive the ATVM loan. So I do think we'll see an announcement on that one test (which takes about 1 day to do at a qualified facility) sooner rather than later.

But they can't do the EPA test and still be messing around with things like frame and panel choices, or the brakes, for that matter. The EPA test car has be a running, fully-dressed model of the production vehicle. (No bait-and-switch permitted by EPA). The need for the official EPA test is real, but it can't be run until they have a road-worthy car. INFORMALLY, I bet they test the E-1 ASAP, and certainly test it on a road somewhere. That could be done as soon as the brakes are complete. There reason for doing that, aside from burning curiosity, is to see if they have to do anything more to boost MPG. They need to know that to start homing in on the real price of the car (which DOE ALSO requires, as part of the proof of financial viability requirement for the loan). Elio also needs to lock down the price and mileage as soon as possible because they've got to re-tune ALL their advertising, replacing "targeted" values with definite ones, both of which will most likely be "worse" than the goal values of 84 mpg / $6800.. Accordingly, the sooner they have a firm handle on cost and mpg, the sooner they can start dealing with reality in their PR and advertising.

It's kind of a dance, really -- and a lot of fun to watch.
You've given me a couple things to think about with this post. You mentioned MPG testing being worst case scenario, which makes sense. I saw a Mythbuster's episode where they actually tested the "AC on" part of your post. Turns out, at speed the aerodynamics with windows down had a negative affect equal to running the AC with Windows up. Makes sense. I'm sure running the AC in city conditions where aerodynamics aren't as important because of the lower speeds will have a negative affect. I guess we could see 48 MPG city decrease? Another thing you mentioned was a fully loaded test vehicle, and the added weight. That got me thinking, how will they do the performance testing? A vehicle this lightweight will have different test numbers when you start adding 100 plus pounds. I know nothing about official vehicle testing, but like I said, you have me wondering even more about this vehicle I can't even buy yet. LOL.;)
 
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"ELIO ANNOUNCES PLANS FLYING CAR"
"Lightweight, powerful new engine, should permit cross country flight without need for rest stops"

IT's BEEN DONE .
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"ELIO ANNOUNCES PLANS FLYING CAR"
"Lightweight, powerful new engine, should permit cross country flight without need for rest stops"

IT's BEEN DONE .
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Maybe. That's built in a pusher configuration. With the "tail wheel" on the Elio, it would have to be in the more usual puller configuration.
 
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