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Probability Of Success Of Investment Concerning Timing Of Various Down Payment Options.

DBN477

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I was hoping this thread were going a different way...I was hoping that it would be about investment in company, such as an IPO..............There are certainly some smart people here, anyone have any idea what an IPO could raise? I don't see how this company gets an Elio in production, without an ipo. I don't see banks lending Elio Motors a $100 million...........I know people don't think it's not fair to compare this to other start ups or other 3 wheelers. I do (I'm not rooting for failure, because I, like many others are out $1k). Corbin Sparrow failed, true not competitor to the Elio, but what is fair to acknowledge is the fact Corbin was started by successful, accomplished businessmen. And it failed.
 

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I don't see the attraction of the Elio to motorcycle riders though as some kind of replacement. IMHO It has almost nothing in common with the motorcycle riding experience, which is why people ride, right? No wind, no leaning (riding!), no being out in the elements, no engine noise, etc. etc. You don't ride an Elio, you drive it.

I recently sold my last motorcycle. Why? Because while I loved riding, I never actually rode. Why not? Because the most obvious time to ride (to work and back) makes riding suck. In the winter it's cold as hell in the morning but beautiful in the afternoon. In the summer it's beautiful in the morning but miserably hot during the afternoon. In other words, I quit riding because the weather was always utter crap for 50% of my daily ride and I just decided that the 50% that was nice wasn't worth the 50% that sucked ass. But along comes Elio....

Winter mornings? Roll up the windows. Turn on the heater. Ah.....
Winter afternoons? Roll down the windows, stick an arm out *each* window. Ah.... Not *quite* the same as riding a motorcycle, but damned close.
Summer mornings? Same as winter afternoons. Sweet!
Summer afternoons? Roll up windows and turn on the AC. Nice...

Thus, the 50% of my riding that sucked should no longer suck.

Oh, and I've never felt the wind through my hair while riding a motorcycle. They're called helmets. I *have* however, enjoyed the heck out of that experience while driving/riding in my wife's convertible. Driving with the top down is *almost* as much fun as riding. I imagine an Elio will be closer to riding than a roadster, but with all the same comfort.... Which means it will be awesome.
 

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I was hoping this thread were going a different way...I was hoping that it would be about investment in company, such as an IPO..............There are certainly some smart people here, anyone have any idea what an IPO could raise? I don't see how this company gets an Elio in production, without an ipo. I don't see banks lending Elio Motors a $100 million...........I know people don't think it's not fair to compare this to other start ups or other 3 wheelers. I do (I'm not rooting for failure, because I, like many others are out $1k). Corbin Sparrow failed, true not competitor to the Elio, but what is fair to acknowledge is the fact Corbin was started by successful, accomplished businessmen. And it failed.

Banks are not the place to turn to when starting a company like this. What Elio will do is find several venture capital firms willing to invest the necessary funds to get the company off the ground and running. With the right deals it is possible for Elio to raise several hundred million dollars this way. The IPO will come but only after vehicles have been coming off the assembly line and are being sold to the general public. At this point an IPO is used so the venture capital investors, as well as Paul Elio and all his associates, can cash out. Of course before you get to the point where an IPO would make sense the business could go bankrupt and/or be sold.
 

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Banks are not the place to turn to when starting a company like this. What Elio will do is find several venture capital firms willing to invest the necessary funds to get the company off the ground and running. With the right deals it is possible for Elio to raise several hundred million dollars this way. The IPO will come but only after vehicles have been coming off the assembly line and are being sold to the general public. At this point an IPO is used so the venture capital investors, as well as Paul Elio and all his associates, can cash out. Of course before you get to the point where an IPO would make sense the business could go bankrupt and/or be sold.

"Bank" as in any institution offering financial services. As I assume we(reservationists) all got the email from Elio "The Most Frequently Asked Preview Tour Questions Answered"

Not one of the questions addressed any sort of finacial backing, deals etc. Before anyone claims secrecy, Elio made announcement January 6, 2014 about finalizing plant deal, and raising 7 million dollars. I cannot believe financial backing of Elio was not a frequently asked question.
 

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"Bank" as in any institution offering financial services. As I assume we(reservationists) all got the email from Elio "The Most Frequently Asked Preview Tour Questions Answered"

Not one of the questions addressed any sort of finacial backing, deals etc. Before anyone claims secrecy, Elio made announcement January 6, 2014 about finalizing plant deal, and raising 7 million dollars. I cannot believe financial backing of Elio was not a frequently asked question.

In a tv interview he claims 47 million. The 7 million I think is from the Caddo Parish local government of where the GM plant is
 
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I recently sold my last motorcycle. Why? Because while I loved riding, I never actually rode. Why not? Because the most obvious time to ride (to work and back) makes riding suck. In the winter it's cold as hell in the morning but beautiful in the afternoon. In the summer it's beautiful in the morning but miserably hot during the afternoon. In other words, I quit riding because the weather was always utter crap for 50% of my daily ride and I just decided that the 50% that was nice wasn't worth the 50% that sucked ass. But along comes Elio....

Winter mornings? Roll up the windows. Turn on the heater. Ah.....
Winter afternoons? Roll down the windows, stick an arm out *each* window. Ah.... Not *quite* the same as riding a motorcycle, but damned close.
Summer mornings? Same as winter afternoons. Sweet!
Summer afternoons? Roll up windows and turn on the AC. Nice...

Thus, the 50% of my riding that sucked should no longer suck.

Oh, and I've never felt the wind through my hair while riding a motorcycle. They're called helmets. I *have* however, enjoyed the heck out of that experience while driving/riding in my wife's convertible. Driving with the top down is *almost* as much fun as riding. I imagine an Elio will be closer to riding than a roadster, but with all the same comfort.... Which means it will be awesome.
Very well stated. You and I are on exactly the same page. I sold my bike 2 weeks ago.
 

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"Bank" as in any institution offering financial services. As I assume we(reservationists) all got the email from Elio "The Most Frequently Asked Preview Tour Questions Answered"

Not one of the questions addressed any sort of finacial backing, deals etc. Before anyone claims secrecy, Elio made announcement January 6, 2014 about finalizing plant deal, and raising 7 million dollars. I cannot believe financial backing of Elio was not a frequently asked question.

Considering that that email was written by the Elio Motors marketing department I am not very surprised they would fail to include certain questions such as financial backing. The best way to get this kind of information would be for someone to ask Paul Elio or another senior Elio Motors officer directly.
 

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Very well stated. You and I are on exactly the same page. I sold my bike 2 weeks ago.

Zipper, Inigo93, and others that have given up on motorcycles I'd love to have your bikes.

I once knew a true motorcyclist affectionately known as Harley Bruce. This guy rode day or night, rain or shine, and even well into the MN winters and didn't worry if it got warm in the summer. He loved his bikes so much that when his diabetes got so bad that they started lopping off body parts and they took one of his legs that it didn't slow him down; instead he had a side car mounted and rode that way until he died.

I'm not as diehard as old Harley Bruce so I'd like to have an Elio for some of the times I don't want to ride the bike but in addition to wanting an elio I also continue to add rides to the stable. Bikes are just too cool.
 

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Elio's SEC filings showed $150000 in investments. That was some time ago. I haven't seen any lately. I also wonder about investments. I doubt many (With big bucks) would be interested to invest do to the profit margin of the Elio. Now, if many, many invested the $1000.00 all in he will make it. I believe that to be his goal and that is why the production date gets set back year after year. If that is the case then I think that he should offer the folks that truly love the Elio a chance to invest venture capital with a rate of return in the future that would compensate the investor. Kinda like he's doing now but the same way any small investor would do it with Rates of return based on sales etc raiseing the stock price.. Maybe one of the Sharks but still, they want way too much back for very small investment. So, all I can say now is....Elio, release your financials so we can see where we're at and where we need to be to guaranty it gonna get built.
I have some OTC penny stocks that suck , But they might pay off in the future. Could be the way to go is issue low priced stock to future Elio owners. Just thinking out loud.
 
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