booboo
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I don't know, maybe ask Elon Musk's lawyers on what being a bit limited in what to communicate means.
https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/22/18277919/elon-musk-sec-court-contempt-twitter
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booboo
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Legit question, I do not remember. When these pictures were taken and what was it about at that time?
https://www.eliomotors.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Resized952018032395095634.jpg
https://www.eliomotors.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Resized952018032395095634.jpg
Heck, I would've paid 15K easy no question asked....if it was available!
RSchneider
Elio Addict
https://www.eliomotors.com/where-is-the-e1c/
Here's when it was discussed.
https://www.elioowners.com/threads/friday-blog-is-out.8294/page-45
RSchneider
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Imagine the trouble Pat got into then. He announced a $400M deal and it turned into $100M. Obviously the contract was not signed or there was a ton of wiggle room that Pat forgot to tell us about. Then Pat announced overstock was being sold and all of a sudden, it's not. Both announcements manipulated the stock and that's in violation of the SEC gag order. So Pat will probably be yanked from the company and then fined big time. If he is not in trouble, then that SEC gag order must only apply to Paul Elio then.
Paul can talk but when you have nothing to offer, then a selfie with a date on it, is all he can offer. Hopefully he will make his yearly trek to the Shreveport plant in May and give another update because the SEC filing comes out right at the beginning of May, so that's when everyone gets fired up.
Johnny Acree
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Original date, April 5 2017. Just to be clear
Rerouting- The Elio’s Exhaust
March 29, 2019
For any vehicle that uses gasoline as a power source, the exhaust system is an integral component. It is important to engineer a system which allows the exhaust to travel the least restrictive route. In previous iterations of our vehicle, we used a tube frame and a sheet molded composite (SMC) body, which prohibited us from routing the exhaust to the rear of the vehicle. Doing so would have significantly reduced our ground clearance. The initial solution was to route the exhaust down the side of the vehicle, under a shroud.
There are many advantages, however, to routing the exhaust in the traditional manner through the rear of the vehicle. Once we made the improvement to a unibody frame, this more traditional exhaust route became a possibility. The unibody frame has created a natural path for the exhaust to exit out near the rear tire on the right side (non-door side). This change has led to several important improvements for our customers, as well as operational benefits.
Better Ride
By routing the exhaust to the rear of the vehicle, we were able to eliminate the exhaust cover which will reduce noise, vibration, and harshness (NVH) of the ride. This ensures that Elio owners will enjoy a smoother and more peaceful ride.
Longer Ride
Enclosing the exhaust on the side of the vehicle could create a tremendous amount of heat. This level of heat can impact the parts surrounding the exhaust. Re-routing the exhaust enhances the longevity of the vehicle and its parts.
Better Looking Ride
When the exhaust was enclosed on the side of the vehicle, it necessitated a bulging cover on the side of the vehicle. Routing the exhaust to the rear of the vehicle removes this need, making for a more symmetrical and aesthetically pleasing Elio.
Fewer Parts and Less Weight
Keeping the Elio as light as possible is critical to achieving our mileage goals. Every pound counts, and removing the exhaust cover and changing the routing reduces the weight by approximately 1.5 pounds. This direction removes the need for additional fasteners, as well as rubber insulator between the exhaust cover and body panels.
Improved Manufacturability
This improvement is also important to the manufacturability of our vehicle and can save significant time in manufacturing. Routing the exhaust traditionally helps reduce the cycle time for assembly and removes a station at the plant. This allows for a simpler system for assembly of the exhaust. Also, the labor time needed for the exhaust cover can now be spent in other areas.
Easier Repairs
Making our vehicle easy to repair is important to us as well, and this change makes the vehicle even simpler to repair.
The changes we have made to the exhaust routing of the vehicle may seem simple, but when added up result in a smoother, more pleasing vehicle that is easier to repair and manufacture.
What gets me,, is, while to folks who know Elio, know this is oooold news.
Someone who does not know Elio, might read these postings, and think this is new news! That just doesn't seem right to me. They should include a disclaimer stating when this "news" came out.
Rerouting- The Elio’s Exhaust
March 29, 2019
For any vehicle that uses gasoline as a power source, the exhaust system is an integral component. It is important to engineer a system which allows the exhaust to travel the least restrictive route. In previous iterations of our vehicle, we used a tube frame and a sheet molded composite (SMC) body, which prohibited us from routing the exhaust to the rear of the vehicle. Doing so would have significantly reduced our ground clearance. The initial solution was to route the exhaust down the side of the vehicle, under a shroud.
There are many advantages, however, to routing the exhaust in the traditional manner through the rear of the vehicle. Once we made the improvement to a unibody frame, this more traditional exhaust route became a possibility. The unibody frame has created a natural path for the exhaust to exit out near the rear tire on the right side (non-door side). This change has led to several important improvements for our customers, as well as operational benefits.
Better Ride
By routing the exhaust to the rear of the vehicle, we were able to eliminate the exhaust cover which will reduce noise, vibration, and harshness (NVH) of the ride. This ensures that Elio owners will enjoy a smoother and more peaceful ride.
Longer Ride
Enclosing the exhaust on the side of the vehicle could create a tremendous amount of heat. This level of heat can impact the parts surrounding the exhaust. Re-routing the exhaust enhances the longevity of the vehicle and its parts.
Better Looking Ride
When the exhaust was enclosed on the side of the vehicle, it necessitated a bulging cover on the side of the vehicle. Routing the exhaust to the rear of the vehicle removes this need, making for a more symmetrical and aesthetically pleasing Elio.
Fewer Parts and Less Weight
Keeping the Elio as light as possible is critical to achieving our mileage goals. Every pound counts, and removing the exhaust cover and changing the routing reduces the weight by approximately 1.5 pounds. This direction removes the need for additional fasteners, as well as rubber insulator between the exhaust cover and body panels.
Improved Manufacturability
This improvement is also important to the manufacturability of our vehicle and can save significant time in manufacturing. Routing the exhaust traditionally helps reduce the cycle time for assembly and removes a station at the plant. This allows for a simpler system for assembly of the exhaust. Also, the labor time needed for the exhaust cover can now be spent in other areas.
Easier Repairs
Making our vehicle easy to repair is important to us as well, and this change makes the vehicle even simpler to repair.
The changes we have made to the exhaust routing of the vehicle may seem simple, but when added up result in a smoother, more pleasing vehicle that is easier to repair and manufacture.
What gets me,, is, while to folks who know Elio, know this is oooold news.
Someone who does not know Elio, might read these postings, and think this is new news! That just doesn't seem right to me. They should include a disclaimer stating when this "news" came out.
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RSchneider
Elio Addict
I doubt anyone cares where the exhaust is routed on their current car. I know that Tesla ran into an issue with it a few years ago but as of today, I think they got it taken care of.
TexasTesla
Elio Addict
Actually, much of the engineering info is outdated in this recycled bog posting...
Since Paul has promised that a different engine is now under consideration...the exhaust specs and routing could easily change.
Basically, the existing and unfinished Elio prototypes, are more than likely obsolete.
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Since Paul has promised that a different engine is now under consideration...the exhaust specs and routing could easily change.
Basically, the existing and unfinished Elio prototypes, are more than likely obsolete.
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Johnny Acree
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My email to EM askin them to add a disclaimer concerning the actual date of the info in their blogs.
here is their response
Your request (140364) has been solved. To reopen this request, reply to this email.
Elio Motors Customer Service (Elio Motors)
Apr 1, 14:12 EDT
Thanks for the feedback Johnny!
Best,
The Elio Team
jwacree
Mar 29, 18:01 EDT
I'm sure ya'll know what you're doin,, but, when using old blogs, I think you should say, this is old news, and then give the date. That way someone reading it won't mistake it for "new" news.
I checked the currant blog and I see no disclaimer.
here is their response
Your request (140364) has been solved. To reopen this request, reply to this email.
Elio Motors Customer Service (Elio Motors)
Apr 1, 14:12 EDT
Thanks for the feedback Johnny!
Best,
The Elio Team
jwacree
Mar 29, 18:01 EDT
I'm sure ya'll know what you're doin,, but, when using old blogs, I think you should say, this is old news, and then give the date. That way someone reading it won't mistake it for "new" news.
I checked the currant blog and I see no disclaimer.