Altc Designs

[AriLea]

That image is where I'm stopped at the moment. It's a bit of a test-trial up to now. Right now. the dams are about 5in to 8in tall. The initial cardboard size has to be bigger than the intended matching dam, which is also bigger than the peer matching dam., which I wasn't sure about. And on the dam face there are 'indexers' and maybe bolting locations to accommodate. Once all mold segments are cast, I can trim the dams down. These dam areas are just for matching up mold segments. The actual mold surface is at minimum 3 layers of cloth and epoxy. I could go up to ten or make ribs where I decide I need stiffness to secure the form geometery. But since the form is so curvy, it's likely to be self-stable in most areas with out much ribbing.

What I call an indexer is a bulging feature on the dam face that keeps the mold segments in alignment. I'm leaning now more towards using clamps on the dams during actual part fabrication rather than bolts, since I find I can make indexers a lot smaller and more sure than I thought.

Eventually I may be able to keep the damns down to 2 or 3 inches, but I've not concluded on the results yet.

 

[AriLea]

Why is it that we did not see anything like this when the Elio body panels were being built?
Just one day UPS shows up with the panels. Sign here sir.

No, really, How were the body panels made?

For Elio Motors, time IS money, and need to be able to replace it on the fly, so initially they could have machine made tooling. This is like RIM molding processes if I remember right.
{Rim tooling}

 

[Karnaj]

That image is where I'm stopped at the moment. It's a bit of a test-trial up to now. Right now. the dams are about 5in to 8in tall. The initial cardboard size has to be bigger than the intended matching dam, which is also bigger than the peer matching dam., which I wasn't sure about. And on the dam face there are 'indexers' and maybe bolting locations to accommodate. Once all mold segments are cast, I can trim the dams down. These dam areas are just for matching up mold segments. The actual mold surface is at minimum 3 layers of cloth and epoxy. I could go up to ten or make ribs where I decide I need stiffness to secure the form geometery. But since the form is so curvy, it's likely to be self-stable in most areas with out much ribbing.

What I call an indexer is a bulging feature on the dam face that keeps the mold segments in alignment. I'm leaning now more towards using clamps on the dams during actual part fabrication rather than bolts, since I find I can make indexers a lot smaller and more sure than I thought.

Eventually I may be able to keep the damns down to 2 or 3 inches, but I've not concluded on the results yet.

Sounds like a lot of dam work

 

[AriLea]

I spotted a reference to this government policy change, link below.
It could mean that low volume boutique manufacturers could build small vehicles using Elio's engine. My Atlantric could be one, ya never know!

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-114hr2675ih/content-detail.html

 

[NSTG8R]

I spotted a reference to this government policy change, link below.
It could mean that low volume boutique manufacturers could build small vehicles using Elio's engine. My Atlantric could be one, ya never know!

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-114hr2675ih/content-detail.html

I'll have to find the link later, but there was something about the Low Volume Manufacturing grant that Delorean was getting to build new 'old' cars. Selling for less than $100k.

I'll pass.

 

[NSTG8R]

I'll have to find the link later, but there was something about the Low Volume Manufacturing grant that Delorean was getting to build new 'old' cars. Selling for less than $100k.

I'll pass.

Here it is:

http://jalopnik.com/the-delorean-is-coming-back-thanks-to-this-new-law-1755528406

Maybe you can use the new law to your advantage, Ari! I'd love to see some of your concepts cruising down the road!

 

[AriLea]

I'll have to find the link later, but there was something about the Low Volume Manufacturing grant that Delorean was getting to build new 'old' cars. Selling for less than $100k.

I'll pass.

Well, there is this one..
http://www.gizmag.com/delorean-low-volume-motor-vehicle-manufacturers-act/41539/

 

[NSTG8R]

Well, there is this one..
http://www.gizmag.com/delorean-low-volume-motor-vehicle-manufacturers-act/41539/

Yep. Same basic story as the link I posted above. If I were you, I'd do some reading to see if you truly qualify.

 

[Rob Croson]

That law only applies to "replicars". i.e. you have to have the body styling of a car that was last made more than 25 years ago, and have the permission of the original producer/rights owner unless you can prove it was abandoned more than 3 years ago. And you have to use a certified crate engine, or a tested engine used by a demonstrably similar model. Everything under the skin could be completely new and original, but so long as the skin resembles a historic car, you're good. If you make a new style body that is not from a historic model, you don't qualify.

The jalopnik article on it has a pretty good summation of the restrictions.

 

[AriLea]

I'm always playing with the ideas. ... variations on variation. This one is a single seater inspired by the 50's. Well maybe a seat and one-half at best... This is a very small vehicle.
Just couldn't leave this thread to die I guess. Before I wire this one in 3d solid modeling, just wanted a verification in clay.