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[Ty]

So, I'm curious what people think about various styles for my grill, should it be an ICE drive.
Of these which do you like? (I included the -none- as the EV version)
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I like "A" the best.

 

[Coss]

Great idea. I do a lot of sanding for furniture and that would really help. (I don't have a car project to work on at the moment)

Thank you; yes I did a LOT of sanding when I made all of the baseboard trim. I used the booth and had about 1/2" of sanding dust on the floor in it and just a tiny bit in the rest of the garage.
Total investment to make it; less than $25.00

 

[AriLea]

I'm wondering what it would look like if you took just the grill in E & D and flipped them upside down.
I didn't mind E but the "smile" face it created was to wuss for my taste.
D would be ok if the hood was narrower (I said that earlier) or how about just making the grill bigger; something like a Buick grill

e) wasn't actually a smile. It's a curved surface, at that angle it would appear to have one. Even the Buick grill would look that way, at that angle. At ground level (or lower) it would always be a frown. At 12 in it would always be flat. It's a consideration of curved noses.

But upside down, with down curved corners as you suggest, might compensate a bit for the smile.

Same things happen with jets. At some angles in flight viewed from the ground, the wings appear to go forward or even point down. When in fact they are both up and back.

 

[Coss]

e) wasn't actually a smile. It's a curved surface, at that angle it would appear to have one. Even the Buick grill would look that way, at that angle. At ground level (or lower) it would always be a frown. At 12 in it would always be flat. It's a consideration of curved noses.

But upside down, with down curved corners as you suggest, might compensate a bit for the smile.

Same things happen with jets. At some angles in flight viewed from the ground, the wings appear to go forward or even point down. When in fact they are both up and back.

Gotcha.
They did some testing a while back and they showed the fronts of cars to different groups of people so see what they say. If appears that the "face" of the car makes a difference in the purchase. Females tend to like a "happy" face (smiles, headlights=eyes) and males prefer a more masculine, or fierce "face". So how a vehicles is designed is to appeal to different buying groups.
Just a trivia FYI.

 

[WilliamH]

So, I'm curious what people think about various styles for my grill, should it be an ICE drive.
Of these which do you like? (I included the -none- as the EV version)
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I like C. I was thinking of a woven metal wire something like this

In chrome or stainless with a 45 degree rotation from the picture.
Maybe 3/4" or 1" spacing with a 1" half round frame - chrome, stainless, or maybe copper.
Maybe for a modern take on some of the old classic brass cars.

 

[W. WIllie]

I think it would depend on how much "Air flow" you need through the opening wouldn't it?

WIllie

 

[Coss]

I like C. I was thinking of a woven metal wire something like this

In chrome or stainless with a 45 degree rotation from the picture.
Maybe 3/4" or 1" spacing with a 1" half round frame - chrome, stainless, or maybe copper.
Maybe for a modern take on some of the old classic brass cars.

.......... if you do it in brass or copper, the meth heads would make off with them..............

 

[AriLea]

Thanks, your input has been useful.
It's getting interesting. I've printed out and modified 21 grill images. I've played a choosing game on a few of my peers at work and my grand children, then posted some here and on another online discussion group. A pattern is developing where a few are each of 95% favored and 99% hated, and the rest are falling into what could become style groups.

Eventually I'll plan my tooling so I can snap different bits together to make these patterns in the most popular style groups.

So this process is showing me what flexibilities I will need to accomplish that. I'll want to finish with the 'game' I have here, since this is the most diverse set of people, and add that into my calculations. So sometime this weekend I'll post the full set, in smaller format, and we'll finish the 'game'. There is a bit of grueling summations involved on my part, but it will be pretty obvious what the method is when I explain the 'game'.

To tell the truth, an entity like the EM design shop would find this thread useful for the E-Y2, if they investigate such things.

 

[AriLea]

So, I'm virtually done with the 'crown' wall. This is to create the 'positive' for the roof panel mold.

This mold is a lot more complex that the usual clam-shell mold. There are several objectives.
I need to have separate molds for separate panels. I need to have different sections for windows, but also will have to cast up a replacement section for the window sill, and somethings still need the clamshell split to release the part etc. There are also places where I want to have options to mold right in. The wheelwell for example, this will need to vary with the tire size for any particular custom build. Head lights, taillights, the hood and even the whole top is optional.
Even deeper, some panels will need a molded-in edge for a rubber seal strip. Some of these mold segments never will be used again with the full body mold and will instead mold parts separately, like the hood or top. Except maybe in the form of duplicating to a full body mock-up, if I ever need such a thing.

Once the panel mold is cast, the wall is removed, but the new mold is left to become the wall for the next section, in combo with any new walls needed. All done one panel at a time until the whole form is covered.

Of course in theory, the body plug, can be 'tossed' when all molds are done. In reality, you wait until at least one part is cast up, so you have a back-up. In my case I also need to reuse it for those options.

 

[Coss]

Do you have a log of how much time and money you have spent on your project from beginning to this point?
I'm sure it's in the 100's of hours so far; but this is why projects like this are called "Labor's of Love".