Already Been Done

[RSchneider]

Maybe we should have an update forum on the Atlantic. This way we have something that's getting real progress that the owner can give us.

 

[AriLea]

Also, how about we compare modern cars and not some old Bug or 914, that a modern SUV could easily out do today.

Also on a side note, I have wondering about this "Atlantic" and the only thing I can see as to what it is is a Mexican VW Jetta from the 80's.

Not Atlantic, the Atlantric. It's just the name for my project car I started around 2006, and then put on pause when the Elio appeared(only 5 miles from my day-time job!). I took into account the Atlantic-Bugatti style as well as the Chrysler-Atlantic, but since this was a trike with options for electric drive, I invoked the 'tric' adaptation.

 

[AriLea]

Same here but whatever it is, at 120 mpg it must be running at 15 mph or slower so is not really street legal!

OH boy, I can't let that go. (with smiles, no angst)
The whole reason I'm interested... I have a BS degree automotive power,. it wasn't like classic engineering, it was a 'technical degree' doing hands-on with real research vehicles. I remained working there for two years after graduation(employed until '84). In the 70/80's these 'Viking Cars' (Western Washington University-Viking Research Institute) (Correction: Vehicle Research Institute :: 'Viking vehicles') were exhibited quite often in Popular Mechanics and Popular Science. They regularly performed 105-110mpg on real freeways. Based on that, I feel the Atlantric can easily hit 120mpg, if I stay true to the requirements to do so.

The Viking cars were well known to maintain a sports-car level of performance and handling. Modern equivalent prototypes in the commercial sector are the Opal ECO-Speedster (93mpg at 140mph! :: concept vehicles, not the production models) and the 1 Liter VW (317mpg :: again, concept, not production posers). Also look at the Avion, (114mpg@55mph) it was built by my student peers of the VRI.

Google on Automotive X-Prize at 100mpg-plus, both the VRI and Avion competed in that (plus Aptera and others) . Aptera Mk0 - only achieved 230 mpg(e)

So yea, 120mpg is possible above 17mph.

I don't think there is a restriction to discuss the Atlantric on it's facebook page.

I have to add this, typically an EV-version of any car gets 2x the mpgE compared to mpg. (not including battery replacement or ICE maintenance)
So 84mpg, would typically change to 168mpg(e). But that was when gas was $4/gal and kwh/$ at 2010 pre-fracking levels. I don't know the ratio in the current "Model-S" era.

 

[AriLea]

Not yet. From what I remember, life got in the way of finishing the prototype for now. I'm still rooting on him finding his round-to-it and getting it done though.

Have 6 grand children living with me (see one here), plus their parents. When they go out, the car comes back in!
I mostly only post because I don't want the world to wait for me.

First Goal: Tooling(molds) that can be used to make body parts for the DIY kit car market. Relative to nicely styled bodies, chassis and drive trains are easy. Ugly bodies even easier!

Current state of the project: The plug (male mold) has a finished surface on it, ready for the final tooling to be built-up.

 

[3wheelin]

OH boy, I can't let that go. (with smiles, no angst)
The whole reason I'm interested... I have a BS degree automotive power,. it wasn't like classic engineering, it was a 'technical degree' doing hands-on with real research vehicles. I remained working there for two years after graduation(employed until '84). In the 70/80's these 'Viking Cars' (Western Washington University-Viking Research Institute) (Correction: Vehicle Research Institute :: 'Viking vehicles') were exhibited quite often in Popular Mechanics and Popular Science. They regularly performed 105-110mpg on real freeways. Based on that, I feel the Atlantric can easily hit 120mpg, if I stay true to the requirements to do so.

The Viking cars were well known to maintain a sports-car level of performance and handling. Modern equivalent prototypes in the commercial sector are the Opal ECO-Speedster (93mpg at 140mph! :: concept vehicles, not the production models) and the 1 Liter VW (317mpg :: again, concept, not production posers). Also look at the Avion, (114mpg@55mph) it was built by my student peers of the VRI.

Google on Automotive X-Prize at 100mpg-plus, both the VRI and Avion competed in that (plus Aptera and others) . Aptera Mk0 - only achieved 230 mpg(e)

So yea, 120mpg is possible above 17mph.

I don't think there is a restriction to discuss the Atlantric on it's facebook page.

I have to add this, typically an EV-version of any car gets 2x the mpgE compared to mpg. (not including battery replacement or ICE maintenance)
So 84mpg, would typically change to 168mpg(e). But that was when gas was $4/gal and kwh/$ at 2010 pre-fracking levels. I don't know the ratio in the current "Model-S" era.

That was some serious performance there AriLea! Never start a project you can't finish! Complete that car you've been working on since 2006- you've got a winner in your hands!

 

[3wheelin]

Have 6 grand children living with me (see one here), plus their parents. When they go out, the car comes back in!
I mostly only post because I don't want the world to wait for me.

First Goal: Tooling(molds) that can be used to make body parts for the DIY kit car market. Relative to nicely styled bodies, chassis and drive trains are easy. Ugly bodies even easier!

Current state of the project: The plug (male mold) has a finished surface on it, ready for the final tooling to be built-up.

Thanks for sharing Arak!