JNR
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I know all applications are different but I would like to know when Alcoa submitted theirs.
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Energy Department Revives Fuel-efficient Vehicle Loan Program - March 26, 2015 - Wsj.com
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JNR
Elio Addict
Well, I should have googled before asking. I found news articles that indicated it was submitted early May 2014.
http://www.autonews.com/article/20140527/OEM10/140529881?template=mobile
Ekh
Elio Addict
First loan of the rejuvenated loan program meant to promote new ideas goes to an established, giant, global corporation with $24 billion in revenue and nearly $2 Billion in cash-on-hand!
Makes sense, they need the loan.
Wait, no it doesn't. Corporate welfare.
If you have money, you can borrow money. If you don't have money, the banks don't want to lend to you. That's why an ATVM loan guarantee is so important -- if there's no risk, the banks will loan. If it's risky, they either charge a lot more in interest or -- they won't loan.
Most of us learn this truth early in life. Some of us don't.
Ekh
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CheeseheadEarl
Elio Addict
Be easy to re engineer to Al down the road. Some tooling mods needed for stamped parts, more complex to weld, but nothing that can't be done fairly easily in the big picture. Carbon fiber as mentioned by BlioKart on the other hand, is a complete process change.OFF Topic (there goes a squirrel ),,just thingin out loud
Wonder what the Elio steel chassis weighs?? If Aluminum instead of steel .... MOre $$$, More reengineering, less weight.. they probably went thru that already , nevermind. Would be SUPER COOL with all aluminim farme
An aluminum chassis higher hp "sport" Elio in year 2 or 3 is no less of a dream than the Elio itself, really.
My guess is that FoMoCo had a large hand in the ALCOA deal going through. The Al bodied F series need a LOT of material, a demand that was nonexistent (but not unplanned, note ALCOA's project began in 2013) a year ago.
... much easier when you live in Wash DC metro.
Another win for BigCorp's $Ms.
Will the Repugs fake OUTRAGE about the govt picking winners and losers? (even though govt is VERY GOOD at picking winners).
Need more electricity for 1000s metric tons more of aluminum?
How about more wind and solar power? nah, wind production tax credit killed (but BigCarbon stills gets, without question, $Bs/year in untouchable tax breaks, subsidies).
How about more wind and solar power? nah, wind production tax credit killed (but BigCarbon stills gets, without question, $Bs/year in untouchable tax breaks, subsidies).
Sadly all that aluminum will not transfer into other Ford products. I was thinking maybe an Aluminum Mustang chassis to finally bring down the weight. I like F150's but i have little use for a truck.
Ekh
Elio Addict
Wood, that's what we need ... I once owned a Marcos, 3/4" marine plywood chassis, fiberglass body. No fatalities in a Marcos, ever. Wood absorbed crash energy. Light weight, sustainable ... wood, I tell you, think wood! (I do every morning!)