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[Adamant]

Dakota Dash are the people probably best suited to do the digital; as for all of the graphics for the tach and speedo, that would have to be custom built, or is that out of a Firebird? IIRC a Firebird dash that had similar graphics.
If that is what it's from, you'd be ahead if you could find a used one in good shape and adapt it to fit.

That's out of an 80s Stringray Corvette. The cool thing is, you can actually buy a used one online. But it's fairly bulky I think, and the overall housing is a rectangular shape.

Unless the price would be just totally astronomical, I actually wouldn't mind trying to design something unique that would fit perfectly within the dash space. Of course, I'm looking for a retro, Knight Rider-type, 80s aesthetic, but it doesn't have to be some huge bulky thing. Hell, if they could make it work within the two 3 3/8" spaces, I'd be totally down for that (and I could just keep the OEM mileage meter).


My only issues are who's gonna switch it out for me (and make sure it works properly) and will the gauges (especially the gas gauge) still register the correct level?

 

[Coss]

That's out of an 80s Stringray Corvette. The cool thing is, you can actually buy a used one online. But it's fairly bulky I think, and the overall housing is a rectangular shape.

Unless the price would be just totally astronomical, I actually wouldn't mind trying to design something unique that would fit perfectly within the dash space. Of course, I'm looking for a retro, Knight Rider-type, 80s aesthetic, but it doesn't have to be some huge bulky thing. Hell, if they could make it work within the two 3 3/8" spaces, I'd be totally down for that (and I could just keep the OEM mileage meter).


My only issues are who's gonna switch it out for me (and make sure it works properly) and will the gauges (especially the gas gauge) still register the correct level?

Cut out that 9"x4 1/2" pattern and go hold it in front of the dash in whatever you're driving now just to give you a perspective of it's real size.


Install, let's see, you're 9hrs and 504 miles away from here (no I don't make house calls)
You can drive it up, drop it off and catch a flight home; come back in a week to 10 days and pick it up.
That is if you can't find a local installer

 

[Ty]

There are laws that cover that.
And most Odometers are built in a way, you really can't any longer.

I meant, what's to keep you from driving 59,000 Mike's, deciding you hate the Elgin, and then swapping out the Elgin for a new dash that starts at 0 miles?

 

[msmith5150]

I meant, what's to keep you from driving 59,000 Mike's, deciding you hate the Elgin, and then swapping out the Elgin for a new dash that starts at 0 miles?

The engine ECM has it's own mileage clock you can't mess with

 

[CrimsonEclipse]

The engine ECM has it's own mileage clock you can't mess with

Can that be accessed through the OBD-2 system?

 

[msmith5150]

Can that be accessed through the OBD-2 system?

Yeah, that's how shops hook up and "talk" to the engine. Every make has a computer program that they use to access their ECMs for diag and other purposes.

 

[Coss]

I meant, what's to keep you from driving 59,000 Mike's, deciding you hate the Elgin, and then swapping out the Elgin for a new dash that starts at 0 miles?

There is a certificate you can file with the DMV about the swap; once you file you'll get a TMU (True Mileage Unknown) sticker that contains the filing number to put in the door jamb. Or you can just continue to drive as if nothing happened. When you can run into a problem doing that is if the new owner isn't told under full disclosure, you can be liable for Fraud. (I spent a while looking for that one, and they are different per state).
If you had it done through a dealer or a shop, they are the ones that submit the swap out paperwork because they are the ones that can be charged with fraud. As mentioned, check with your DMV to find the rules for your state.
Also, new odometers do have anti-rollback devices built in; they either drop little bars between the numbers, or the numbers do not line up.
The cars that have digital odometers do get the mileage directly from the ECM (or ECU) as msmith5150 stated. Most newer cars no longer have the drive cable that they used to have in the past; they get speed and mileage from the computer.

 

[Ty]

I knew about the anti-roll back fo

There is a certificate you can file with the DMV about the swap; once you file you'll get a TMU (True Mileage Unknown) sticker that contains the filing number to put in the door jamb. Or you can just continue to drive as if nothing happened. When you can run into a problem doing that is if the new owner isn't told under full disclosure, you can be liable for Fraud. (I spent a while looking for that one, and they are different per state).
If you had it done through a dealer or a shop, they are the ones that submit the swap out paperwork because they are the ones that can be charged with fraud. As mentioned, check with your DMV to find the rules for your state.
Also, new odometers do have anti-rollback devices built in; they either drop little bars between the numbers, or the numbers do not line up.
The cars that have digital odometers do get the mileage directly from the ECM (or ECU) as msmith5150 stated. Most newer cars no longer have the drive cable that they used to have in the past; they get speed and mileage from the computer.

for the mechanical ones but wasn't sure how electronic ones kept their info. If it is from the car's ecu and THAT isn't swapped out, that would be one thing but if it were in the dash, it seems it would be tempting for some to swap it out after the first 20,000 Or so miles to make it seem like a lower mileage car when they do finally sell it.

 

[Coss]

I knew about the anti-roll back fo

for the mechanical ones but wasn't sure how electronic ones kept their info. If it is from the car's ecu and THAT isn't swapped out, that would be one thing but if it were in the dash, it seems it would be tempting for some to swap it out after the first 20,000 Or so miles to make it seem like a lower mileage car when they do finally sell it.

Have you looked at the price of ECU's for cars? $2K for a used one isn't unusual.
So if you'll willing to pay for something like that it is a possibility; but is it really worth the expense?

Here again, being charged with fraud because you did try to hide mileage can get very expensive.

So yes, it can be done; is it worth it? Not in my life; what anyone else does is up to them.

 

[Ekh]

Let me see if I got this right: you can buy a good used engine for $3K for most cars. But the ECU alone would be $2K? Seems nuts to me.


I just checked -- I can buy a used ECU for my 2009 Forester for $134.95

ECU ECM COMPUTER Subaru Forester 2009 09 Auto 22611AN450 775471