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Function & Cost of AMT vs Manual: Interesting...
I did some reading. It sounds like the additional electro-hydraulic control should cost considerably more, but read on.
I think EM did explain how you can manually shift (no foot pedal) the AMT with the stick in some of their information.
I'm pretty sure it was the usual "+ M -" configuration. Let me know if I've got this right. I think I like the concept.
Using the picture below as an example, to manually shift the vehicle, you place the shifter in "M" instead of "D".
To shift up a gear you move the shifter down to bump "+" and to shift down a gear, you move the shifter up to bump "-".
The shifter returns to "M" via spring tension when you let go, instead of remaining in "+" or "-".
I was set on the "standard" manual configuration but now I'm going to have to give it more thought.
More stuff to break and possibly more expensive to fix out of warranty, but jeez that'd be nice.
Below is a link to a video about a 5 speed AMT in action in a Maruti Suzuki Celerio VXI. The video has got me thinking.
@ 1:45 in the video, the reviewer says, "The automated manual transmission in the Celerio is identical to it's 5-speed counterpart."
"The only difference being the absence of a clutch and the shifts taking place through an electro-hydraulic unit mounted on top of the gearbox."
"AND THAT IS WHAT KEEPS COSTS DOWN." Hmmm.
The next video at that link says, "The auto (tranny) will only be available on the base two models."
In fact, the upgrade models come standard with the "identical" transmission in the non-auto 5-speed manual configuration.
This all sounds like, for the Celerio, the 'manual only' transmission configuration is MORE EXPENSIVE than the AMT!
Now just what is up with that?
With the manual shifting option on the AMT, I can't see any legitimate reason to want, or even offer, a 5-speed 'manual only' version.
Also, wouldn't installing only one transmission system cut costs even further for EM?
Maybe that's what EM's statement about only one transmission being available in the Elio actually meant.
The embed code produced an error, so click here for the link to the video(s).
I did some reading. It sounds like the additional electro-hydraulic control should cost considerably more, but read on.
I think EM did explain how you can manually shift (no foot pedal) the AMT with the stick in some of their information.
I'm pretty sure it was the usual "+ M -" configuration. Let me know if I've got this right. I think I like the concept.
Using the picture below as an example, to manually shift the vehicle, you place the shifter in "M" instead of "D".
To shift up a gear you move the shifter down to bump "+" and to shift down a gear, you move the shifter up to bump "-".
The shifter returns to "M" via spring tension when you let go, instead of remaining in "+" or "-".
I was set on the "standard" manual configuration but now I'm going to have to give it more thought.
More stuff to break and possibly more expensive to fix out of warranty, but jeez that'd be nice.
Below is a link to a video about a 5 speed AMT in action in a Maruti Suzuki Celerio VXI. The video has got me thinking.
@ 1:45 in the video, the reviewer says, "The automated manual transmission in the Celerio is identical to it's 5-speed counterpart."
"The only difference being the absence of a clutch and the shifts taking place through an electro-hydraulic unit mounted on top of the gearbox."
"AND THAT IS WHAT KEEPS COSTS DOWN." Hmmm.
The next video at that link says, "The auto (tranny) will only be available on the base two models."
In fact, the upgrade models come standard with the "identical" transmission in the non-auto 5-speed manual configuration.
This all sounds like, for the Celerio, the 'manual only' transmission configuration is MORE EXPENSIVE than the AMT!
Now just what is up with that?
With the manual shifting option on the AMT, I can't see any legitimate reason to want, or even offer, a 5-speed 'manual only' version.
Also, wouldn't installing only one transmission system cut costs even further for EM?
Maybe that's what EM's statement about only one transmission being available in the Elio actually meant.
The embed code produced an error, so click here for the link to the video(s).
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