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Then you must be thrilled for the increase to +/- 110hp.

My Prius gets 55 mpg and has a huge amount of storage. Sure it cost more, but I also get a whole lot more car. Bought this because I could not wait on Elio. For me the Elio would have to get the full 84+ mpg.

Ford 1L Ecoboost with a CVT for the win.

What do you make of this? https://www.eliomotors.com/elio-motors-kicks-off-security-token-pre-sale-to-fund-production/

The more I read about this Elio coin, it seems the less I know. What I do know is that Overstock.com gambled $2.5 million on it, and I have to assume they know more than me.

I don't know anything about the financing mechanism that Elio is going after, but assuming that Overstock does. Why would they invest any amount of money if they weren't confident that mechanism wasn't viable?

there are an amazing number of Elio haters, I can't figure it out, what's to hate?

If it takes $500 million to get to production, what good will $2.5 million from Overstock do? Why would they invest such a small amount, seems like just throwing money away. Or am I missing somehing?

I looked up the closest option to an Elio as rated by cost per mpg and found the link below. The top 10 ranged from $372-$484/ mpg and the Elio is $126 that's a huge difference. ($111 if you use the manual transmission)...

Those are the original tires, compare them to the ones on the latest prototype.

I have felt all along that the ATVM loan was intended for EV's and the Elio being gas was holding it back. I think it's pretty clear that this administration does not have those leanings, so I think it can only help. Unless there is a move to cut costs across the board, which I guess is just as...

They need a miracle at this point. Santa? Trump?

I don't even know if they have enough $ to build the E-series cars, let alone the 100 pre-production cars. Next is the $ to start construction, that's the biggest hurdle and appears to be a long shot. So to predict a production date is not realistic. I remain hopeful because it seems like a very...

Unless I'm mistaken, meeting the reservation count is no guarantee of getting the loan. If they slapped a solar panel on the roof and called it a solar hybrid, they would have the loan next day.

The key to low drag is laminar air flow, it can be counter intuitive. Turbulence on the back side of the car or in this case the front wheel linkage can make a big difference.

.3 is the same as a Ford Taurus, somehow I think he miss-spoke.

Thanks for putting that summary together, it really helps. In a previous thread i was led to believe that the government altered the rules of the loan specifically for Elio, but it was in fact Aptera. This takes me back to my original assumption that they were looking for something that does not...

Wonder how hard it would be to coat the exposed metal with a bedliner material like Line-X? Remove seat, tape off and spray.

I thought it was a great presentation, anyone else get a chance to listen to it?

If my understanding of a uni-body car is correct, all of the parts work together to create the overall stiffness and strength, frame and body panels. On a tubular frame the body panels do not add to the overall strength, the frame has to do all the work. A uni-body car should be stiffer and less...