Coronavirus Info

With all due respect EA, it’s absurd to use ‘recoveries,’ ‘tested cases,’ ‘cases,’ or any metric that’s simply dependent on whether you want to wait in line, pay a deductible, get a Qtip jammed in your nose, and then maybe be sent home to take a few aspirin: this number can’t be even considered in the equation.

10 percent fatality! I hope you’re trying to be facetious! There is absolutely no reports, studies, medical statistics, nothing, that supports this number....by most accounts it’s hovering around .6 percent. Just for clarity, that’s a little more than one half of one percent, overall. It might be 10 percent for people over 75 with COPD, HBP, and Diabetes.

If you’re just joking let me know, and I’ll remove this... maybe I’m just being ‘an old lady in a wet dress,’ and don’t have a sense of humor anymore.

Watashiwah said:

With all due respect EA, it’s absurd to use ‘recoveries,’ ‘tested cases,’ ‘cases,’ or any metric that’s simply dependent on whether you want to wait in line, pay a deductible, get a Qtip jammed in your nose, and then maybe be sent home to take a few aspirin: this number can’t be even considered in the equation.

10 percent fatality! I hope you’re trying to be facetious! There is absolutely no reports, studies, medical statistics, nothing, that supports this number....by most accounts it’s hovering around .6 percent. Just for clarity, that’s a little more than one half of one percent, overall. It might be 10 percent for people over 75 with COPD, HBP, and Diabetes.

If you’re just joking let me know, and I’ll remove this... maybe I’m just being ‘an old lady in a wet dress,’ and don’t have a sense of humor anymore.

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Those are the numbers. And that percentage continues to be about the same as things progress. Any other way of measuring it is not based on fact. Any other way of measuring it is based on wild SPECULATION and a desire to either not face the truth or a desire to push an agenda. Or both. It's simple math and documented fact. It's amazing to me how many people are afraid of the truth and go along with the narrative. Here it is in black and white. It doesn't get much simpler than this. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

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Those are the numbers. And that percentage continues to be about the same as things progress. Any other way of measuring it is not based on fact. Any other way of measuring it is based on wild SPECULATION and a desire to either not face the truth or a desire to push an agenda. Or both. It's simple math and documented facts. It's amazing to me how many people are afraid of the truth and go along with the narrative. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

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It’s not a matter of being afraid of truth to someone that says the death rate from COVID is “underwhelming“, but rather something else.

One of the issues with comparing the flu death numbers to covid-19 death numbers is the flu numbers are usually an estimate where the covid-19 numbers are confirmed deaths. Yes, there is an argument that the covid deaths are miscategorized by hospitals to make more money but unless we get some hard numbers on misreporting, we will have to ignore that.

If you compare confirmed deaths to confirmed deaths, it looks much worse. This is done because the flu deaths are known to be under-reported, but is still an apples-to-oranges comparison. For all we know we might need a correction factor to pump up the covid numbers too.

Here is a little info about it from a known biased source, but you still get the idea: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/05/02/theres-more-accurate-way-compare-coronavirus-deaths-flu/

As well, we are comparing the flu, which we have a vaccine for, vs covid-19 where we have shut down a lot of our country, social distanced, etc to keep the numbers down. Again, apples-to-oranges.

My point here is just that directly comparing flu numbers to covid-19 numbers gets you a flawed picture. But it boils down to the price we put on human life. The flu does not kill enough people yearly for us to do much more than vaccinate (some of us, others bareback it). Covid-19 looks/looked much worse, but turns out a lot of people value the old normal over the piles of bodies. I get that, the needs of the many outweighing the needs of the few. In this case, the "few" being hundreds of thousands (to possibly millions after the second wave) of human lives. People just need to be honest about it, they really do not believe "every heartbeat is sacred".

Oddly, that “honesty” regarding COVID includes their lack of care/concern for their family and friends that may end up in the pile of bodies.

So, I am wading in here to this surprisingly contentious thread. Pulling numbers from the MSN Covid tracking page.

I'm not good at math but out of the known and reported 2,008,728 cases in the US, we've had 113,099 deaths. Isn't that in the neighborhood of like 5.6%? Worldwide of the 7,121,700 cases there's been 406,616 deaths which is like 5.7%? I mean, these are not insignificant numbers or percentages but not quite 10% fatality either.

From the state by state breakdown I saw, Michigan and Connecticut were ~9.5% but they are the only ones close to 10%.

If what y’all say is true, that if there is no vaccine and we don’t isolate forever we will have 20 to 45 million deaths! Unbelievable! I mean that, it’s unbelievable alright!

Watashiwah said:

If what y’all say is true, that if there is no vaccine and we don’t isolate forever we will have 20 to 45 million deaths! Unbelievable! I mean that, it’s unbelievable alright!

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I mean, there is no vaccine. You don't have to isolate forever, you simply need everyone to take precautions. Certainly, isolating until we had more information was the correct move.

I can see now how Paul and Hari’s numbers and math got so many believers!!

Watashiwah said:

I can see now how Paul and Hari’s numbers and math got so many believers!!

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Your opinion based on your SPECULATION. Nothing wrong with that. You're entitled to it.