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  1. Sonoran Sam

    I Have Given Up On Elio, Have You?

    I think there is already a system in place called CAFE. Automotive manufacturers can get "credits" for vehicles that get over the CAFE standard to offset the vehicles that get under the CAFE standard. I'm not sure, but I think they can sell excess CAFE credits to other manufacturers.
  2. Elio Amazed

    What Is Elio Stock Trading For Today?

    You might also enjoy this:http://worldif.economist.com/ This image isn't large enough to begin to cover it, but your scenario is more in the direction of...
  3. 84mpg

    What Is Elio Stock Trading For Today?

    In 1982, GM unveiled the “Lean Machine”. (All you young whipper snappers need to check it out if you don’t know what it was.) I saw the Lean Machine exhibit at Epcot’s GM sponsored World of Motion. I have never forgiven GM for not producing the Lean Machine. I would have written a check on the...
  4. Made in USA

    What Is Elio Stock Trading For Today?

    Perhaps, but what IF they convinced the government to pass the autocycle legislation and make them eligible for CAFE credits in return for manufacturing jobs? With all the pick-up trucks and SUV's I think they need something with great mileage. (It's a big IF!). They might find the liability...
  5. Ty

    I Have Given Up On Elio, Have You?

    Selling future credits. I could see a manufacturer putting up a loan in exchange for CAFE credits. I think the biggest stumbling block is that it isn't a sure thing Elio would be eligible... even with an Autocycle designation which separates it from the motorcycle designation.
  6. Made in USA

    I Have Given Up On Elio, Have You?

    If they were eligible, then a forward thinking company might invest in future credits. Also, who knows if in the future autocycles may be eligible for the credits? The autocycle bill in Congress may be stalled, but is not dead yet.
  7. Elio Amazed

    I Have Given Up On Elio, Have You?

    I thought we've been all through that over the years and the conclusion was that Elio will not be eligible for CAFE credits because, federally speaking, it's a motorcycle. Besides if there's no cars, and therefore noengines, produced why would there be credits for sale even if the Elio was...
  8. FC

    Autocycle?

    Maybe they are hoping to get autocycles qualified to be part of the CAFE system so they can sell CAFE credits? Not having to have a center head light would be nice too.
  9. raptor213

    Friday Blog Is Out

    ...all the flak Elon Musk gets in the media, his business model for Tesla relies as heavily on trading renewable energy credits and selling CAFE credits to legacy auto manufacturers as it does on the profit margin potential of actual vehicles rolling off his assembly lines. Perhaps we as...
  10. 4matic

    Ars Technica Covers The Atvm Loan Hoarding Catastrophe

    No “sour grapes” here... But... I’m looking forward to knowing how Elio Motors misappropriated $150 million in OPM (other peoples money)...LOL Yes... very interesting indeed!
  11. Watashiwah

    Ars Technica Covers The Atvm Loan Hoarding Catastrophe

    As the fog clears some of us might be wondering just how much stake we should have put in ‘cafe credits’ and getting the ATVM loan as part of the ‘business plan.’ Sure it sounds good when we’re imagining zipping around in our new cool cars and all. And yes, Paul and Co. made us feel all...
  12. R

    Ars Technica Covers The Atvm Loan Hoarding Catastrophe

    Here's some from August 2017:
  13. R

    Where's Paul?

    If you read the Elio SEC filing, it tells you why they have not got the ATVM loan: If they don't get the ATVM loan, they have a plan as stated in their SEC filing: That is true and many other companies have been rejected. Aptera, Bright Automotive, Next Autoworks, Coda, Think, Carbon Motors...
  14. Kuda

    Automotive Startups Face Long Odds

    We have known for 9 years of the potential. The Roush evolved E1-C is as near production ready as I've seen to-date. [https://www.eliomotors.com/elio-motors-adds-roush-as-lead-engineering-partner-elio-momentum-v44/] Joel is now working with a big-boy DC lobbying Firm to get the ATVM & the IPO...
  15. FC

    Elio Hires Dc Lobbying Firm

    If they can pull off being qualified for CAFE credits, I would think the investors would be interested in the much greater profit margin. Wouldn't surprise me if they have some of the big automakers helping them with that effort, would be a win/win for them.
  16. gottemfeathers

    Elio Hires Dc Lobbying Firm

    Well, I don't think Lewandowski is toxic. I don't want to venture into politics but I think you and I just see things differently.
  17. S

    Elio Hires Dc Lobbying Firm

    Lewanowski is toxic. If Elio got Cafe credits and/or ATVM loan the press would vilify the government. Everyone is trying to distance themselves from him, why would Elio think that he will be helpful?
  18. gottemfeathers

    Elio Hires Dc Lobbying Firm

    Could you please give a further explanation of why that is a stupid move? Why would "not under the radar anymore" be a bad thing? If more people knew about the benefits of an Elio, maybe that would help it get funded and/or get the ATVM loan.
  19. S

    Elio Hires Dc Lobbying Firm

    With Lewandowskis's ties to Turnberry, Elio's hopes for an ATVM loan or cafe credits went down to zero. Elio is not under the radar anymore, what a stupid move.
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