Is The Eliomotors.com Website Down?

So I check in Safari and it shows up original.... however I checked the code on the Google Chrome version of the site and the Firefox code... it shows that there are empty spaces being created on the back end an example of this code is

<div class="tabs">
<ul class="tab-links"><li class="active"><a href="#tabempty1">&nbsp</a></li><li><a href="#tabempty2">&nbsp</a></li>
<li><a href="#tabempty3">&nbsp</a></li>
<li><a href="#tabempty4">&nbsp</a></li>
</ul>
</div>

this code was taken from the html version on Firefox.... I pulled it to show that its not showing up but its there

&nbsp in html is code for (empty space)

and the div class stands for division class... with the title of tabs to let the website and computer know to display tabs

the href--- is the reference to the main division for the tab to be "empty" which means its a blank tab and the code is label 4 extras....

This might be something they are saving for future and going to fill them as the time progresses, however it is kinda cool to be investigating and seeing new things happening

Hopefully I am not becoming some crazy hyper-conspiracy person lol

Let me know if I am reading the code wrong (I am a teacher that knows very very little html code lol)

amwinkle said:

I am such a nerd... however I do know that the website is being worked on... I logged in today to drop my 1000 and some of the words have been switched and there are three extra tabs at the top of the page that are "unlinkable."

Anyway there is something coming from what I see here is a quote from the recent blog post

"Well, spoiler alert, we are working on the next generation of our website and there will be a section that we share some other information about reservations and a lot of other cool to know items."'

The update must be coming soon I am so excited I want to drop my 1000 but I think I am going to wait until the website is updated and finished... I have my 900 upgrade set aside and waiting...

What do you guys think? does it have any extra space toward the top of the page? Do you notice changes? Whose dropped the full 1000

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I noticed Blog had been added at the top yesterday. I will have to look again to see what else has been added. Thanks for the heads up! :-) Z

amwinkle said:

Ok so when I log into the site now it shows an overlapping space with the tabs at the top... I cant read the Reserve words Here is a screenshot

It used to have all the tabs aligned at the top perfectly... now its overlapping and the about is below covering things... before it was extra tabs... quite strange
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I only see 2 changes - the addition of Blog at the top and on the Specs pages there is button bottom right for downloading a specs PDF. I'm on an iPad. :-) Z

amwinkle said:

this code was taken from the html version on Firefox.... I pulled it to show that its not showing up but its there

&nbsp in html is code for (empty space)

and the div class stands for division class... with the title of tabs to let the website and computer know to display tabs

the href--- is the reference to the main division for the tab to be "empty" which means its a blank tab and the code is label 4 extras....

This might be something they are saving for future and going to fill them as the time progresses, however it is kinda cool to be investigating and seeing new things happening

Hopefully I am not becoming some crazy hyper-conspiracy person lol

Let me know if I am reading the code wrong (I am a teacher that knows very very little html code lol)

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You are also one crazy dude and I love the fact you joined our forum. It is fun having you aboard sharing your crazy ideas. :-) Z

dielk said:

I have,over the span of my life made many impulse purchases- some of which I couldn't afford $600 for an early VCR player. 2300 cell phone the size of a tool box and charged around 15 cents a minute!! Paid 2500 for my first mac! the elio will be good therapy for me -delayed gratification!! my first short term happyness will be my number- I have ELIO on a sticky to help keep me off Craig's, ebay. and amazon!! and I do say help- I try to fill my void with "stuff" -will put the t over the doorway to help. I'm hooked on reading this forum every day, knowing that although there won't be any real NEWS daily, it's good to hear the energy. In hoping that it really happens, as a safe and small bet on a second, put $100 refundable, hoping that if it really does happen, I could resell the first at a premium and keep the 2nd ( which should be a few months after the first), if not I don't even lose the 100!!

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Dusty,

The longer you wait, the Behinder you get!!!!

Interest on 100$s (All In) = 50$
Interest on 900$s, in your pocket = 0.00$s, if you wait.
Interest on the additional 900$s, all in= 450$s

That's 500$s interest on your commitment.
plus you can enjoy your Production number for a year.

The new has already worn off my 'T' shirt but my 'P' # will remain 'NEW' until I go to Shreveport. LOL

tazairforce said:

Dusty,

The longer you wait, the Behinder you get!!!!

Interest on 100$s (All In) = 50$
Interest on 900$s, in your pocket = 0.00$s, if you wait.
Interest on the additional 900$s, all in= 450$s

That's 500$s interest on your commitment.
plus you can enjoy your Production number for a year.

The new has already worn off my 'T' shirt but my 'P' # will remain 'NEW' until I go to Shreveport. LOL

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HAHAHA amazing interest comparison

And Zelio... I sure hope I am not considered completely nuts lol.... maybe just a tiny bit crazy

amwinkle said:

HAHAHA amazing interest comparison

And Zelio... I sure hope I am not considered completely nuts lol.... maybe just a tiny bit crazy

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I think when it comes to our Elios, we are all a little bit crazy! :-) Z

I did multiple searches of the source code in both IE8 and FF24.0 and found nothing remotely resembling what you've listed.
I actually skimmed through the entire source code just to make sure.
If it were in the source code the way you've shown, it might "show up" on the actual page in some browsers.
It would show up as one blank single character space for each "empty tab" (via the "&nbsp").
However, to work in most browsers, it must be "&nbsp;" (note the semi-colon).
That in itself would explain why it doesn't show up on the actual page.
To show up, the list items must have content. Without the semi-colon, and without a class or ID they "don't exist".
On the other hand it is possible that the extra 4 spaces might have made everything too wide for the div holding the tabs.
That could be a reason for initially seeing the "about" pushed down to another line (and covering up some of the other content).

I have no idea why you're seeing this and none of us are.
I even looked for conditional statements that would feed different html to different browsers and found none.
Having multiple CSS stylesheets coupled with ID tags, Class tags, and conditional statements will enable different styling for different browsers.
But it doesn't change the html across those browsers.
Without very specific conditional statements, the html should appear the same in all source code pages.
Whatever the case may be, I think it's more a case of the webmaster forgetting to clean up after themselves.
Not a case of "I'm putting this here because I know I'll be using it soon and I don't want have to remember how to do it."
It's a good, clean, fairly well-contructed site, and I don't think whoever's working on it would save themselves any time by using place-setters.
It just doesn't look like the site's set up to have content changes done by layman EM personel via a WYSIWYG editor.
A pro will usually use "edit out" <!--....--> comment sections for place-setting.
They'll do that for the very reason of not wanting the "place-setting" code to accidentally show up and affect the page.
Again, I think it was just a case of someone forgetting to sweep the floor before they left for the night.

The only thing that I can think of is that you've got hold of a different site addy than the rest of us somehow.
Possibly one of a group of "unpublished" pages kept by the webmaster for "practice only".
I do most of my dev offline, but there are some things that just don't show up until you run them live in all browsers.
If you post a link to the page where you're seeing these variations, I'll click on it and see if they show up on my machine.

amwinkle said:

So I check in Safari and it shows up original.... however I checked the code on the Google Chrome version of the site and the Firefox code... it shows that there are empty spaces being created on the back end an example of this code is

<div class="tabs">
<ul class="tab-links"><li class="active"><a href="#tabempty1">&nbsp</a></li><li><a href="#tabempty2">&nbsp</a></li>
<li><a href="#tabempty3">&nbsp</a></li>
<li><a href="#tabempty4">&nbsp</a></li>
</ul>
</div>

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My recommendation is to immediately go to a friend's house or an internet café and use their computer.